3000+ Winchester Impression

[Radelon]

This is my first A64 setup. I have been stuck on Intel for about 4 years. Here's the components I started with:

A64 - 939 3000+ Winchester
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
2x512 OCZ PC3200 Rev2 Platinum
Hercules 9800Pro
Enermax EG465P-VE
CoolerMaster SK8 w/ YS Tech 5000rpm 60mm

Tons of new settings for me in this and took me about 2 days to finally work through the "newness". Well as for right now i'm running 9x280 @ 1.65v w/ 2.5-3-3-9 1t 2.85v and the system runs real nice.

3DMark2001se: 24,849
3DMark2003: 7209
3DMark2005: 2902 (not 9x280)
AquaMark3: 52,780

And still tweaking..... I am attaching some pictures for your viewing pleasure. Keep in mind this CPU Heatsink was $7.

[blinky]

hm, so i guess the winchesters dont OC better than 754 newcastles on air at least.

cuz 2.5g-2.55 is what most newcastles get, so this is right on par

[mcnbns]

I'd like to see what that CPU can do under a decent H2O system.

[ocmyface]

i think it needs some more time...

maybe the 3000+ jsut sucks at overclocking? kinda like a tbred a...

i dont know, i just have my hopes (and my money) set on an FX57 next year, dont want to lose hope

edit: ive got a great WC setup( for sale btw ), send the mobo and proc over here, ill test it

[Kunaak]

hm, so i guess the winchesters dont OC better than 754 newcastles on air at least.

cuz 2.5g-2.55 is what most newcastles get, so this is right on par

yes, but one is 754, and one is 939 at nearly the same prices.

[blinky]

yes, but one is 754, and one is 939 at nearly the same prices.

yah i know that is true

im just sayin cuz of all the people who say "oh the winchesters do 2.8g on air" just because they heard someone else say it, and they believe it like

-edit-Blinky, keep political opinions OUT of this section - Charlie

wants to sell you wood.

[drunkenmaster]

could be pointed out that an sk8 and a small 60mm fan aren't the best air cooling about though. So assuming it could do more on a better sink and it starts to look good. Also not every core, even from a good batch is good, we need more results(lots and lots more) to see if this is a good, average or even one of the worst overclocks we will see.

i got a 3200+ sitting here, but not had time to do anything, also finding a none crap board would help. msi - sucks, abit- lots of issues booting-being stable poss faulty but also an ES chip , gigabyte- overpriced, underperforming crappy voltages and general lameness, asus-i sold it(dunno why in the end, ovp vdimm sucked).

3000+ 939 in uk is £120, 3000+ 754 is £110ish, cheapest 1mb 754 i can see is a £220 mobile, so basically its a 512kb 754/939 in budget area, a dual channel 512 vs a single channel 512kb and the 939 is a clear winner in everything.

[mrnuke]

Is this the oh so famous Radelon from Motor City Online?!?!?!?!??!?!

[CTKP]

I'll also post some results here around tuesday/wednesday.

Also, that 2cmd in your bandwidth bench is just an misreading right? you're running 1T?

[drunkenmaster]

sisoft "cmd" bit isn't about command rate, however much it sounds like it, or maybe it is and sisoft reads it wrong most of the time.

[Radelon]

Is this the oh so famous Radelon from Motor City Online?!?!?!?!??!?!

Oh yes it is..... I am Radelon from MCO.

Also.... in this setup the psu is holding me back, plus the fact that I run out of higher multipliers. If I had a 10 multi i'm pretty sure I could get this thing to 2.7 or 2.8 without a problem. I have an OCZ psu on the way should be here soon. I'll try and get more out of this setup today. Just got it on thursday so I'm still playing with it.

This MSI board is a great board. You just need to find the quarks and work around and adapt to them. After that you find it's a really fast board.

[trans am]

hm, so i guess the winchesters dont OC better than 754 newcastles on air at least.

cuz 2.5g-2.55 is what most newcastles get, so this is right on par

I don't think it's a fair comparison. Remember the 939 3000+ default speed is only 1.8ghz. The newcastle 3000+ is running at 2.0ghz. It already has a 200mhz advantage, so his overclock is really over 700mhz!! Which is a pretty damn good o/c regardless of his cooling.

[ocmyface]

I don't think it's a fair comparison. Remember the 939 3000+ default speed is only 1.8ghz. The newcastle 3000+ is running at 2.0ghz. It already has a 100mhz advantage, so his overclock is really over 600mhz!! Which is a pretty damn good o/c regardless of his cooling.

2000mhz - 1800 mhz = 200 mhz (unless youre giving DC a 100mhz handicap)


I agree with whoever it was that said we need more results, also once the DFI S939 comes out, well get less of a mobo bottleneck - hopefully

[trans am]

2000mhz - 1800 mhz = 200 mhz (unless youre giving DC a 100mhz handicap)


I agree with whoever it was that said we need more results, also once the DFI S939 comes out, well get less of a mobo bottleneck - hopefully

I'm sorry, I've been up too long. 200mhz

[HKPolice]

2000mhz - 1800 mhz = 200 mhz (unless youre giving DC a 100mhz handicap)


I agree with whoever it was that said we need more results, also once the DFI S939 comes out, well get less of a mobo bottleneck - hopefully

The only DFI s939 will be on nF4 chipset, which is PCIe only. Not really meant for the mainstream yet.

[ocmyface]

wow, i completely forgot about that >
at least it will still overclock well - knocks on wood

will there ever be an AGP counter part?

[Grayson Carlyle]

The only DFI s939 will be on nF4 chipset

Are you entirely sure about that?

[p4z1f1st]

The only DFI s939 will be on nF4 chipset, which is PCIe only. Not really meant for the mainstream yet.

that's wrong....nobody knows, WHICH nF4-chipset DFI will use...there are 4sorts:

one with SLI (1x PCIe16 / 1x PCIe8) + sATA2
one with one PCIe16-slot + sATA2
one with just one PCIe16-slot + sATA1
and a AGP-version

(i'm not sure which of them has sATA2, but the SLI-one has)

@ Radelon:
i've a few questions

1. is the IHS still on it?

2. where do you come from (so, where did you buy it?)

[pik-ard v1.1]

nice 720mhz overclock with a $7 heatsink

i'd love to see what you can do with a xp-90, a high power 90/92mm fan, and a better psu. probably no more then 100-200mhz more. but still, an 800-900mhz overclock on top air cooling would be quite a feat, and i'd just get a 3000+(instead of planning on a 3200+ or 3500+) if you could show a result like that.

[jjcom]

$7 heat sink and getting that man....what are your temps? What kind of $7 heatsink is that???

[The Runner]

I think this is a decent clock considering cooling/psu and also the price of the chip. The bundle is only £170 inc k8n neo plat + 3000+ chip. I'm considering getting that instead of my spec in sig, and using 1gb of Ballistix PC4000... Dunno what cooler I'd get though

I might check out what my current setup can do, if it can do say 2.7ghz, would it be worth changing?

[jjcom]

no if you can 2.7ghz and the Windchesters are doing 2.6ghz or so on air here at first it wouldn't be worth it.

[Radelon]

Well I did some more tweaking and got it to 8x320 with OCZ PC3500EB 3-2-2-8 1t in 166 mode. This gave me 25,113 in 3dmark2001se which is awesome. Sandra was around 7500 buffered, superpi was 33s. I tell you what, give me a better psu, cooler and I'll really be rockin'.

I've found a big quirk in this board which was holding me back before. TRAS 11 on this board hinders overclocks real bad, once I figured that out, it was off to the races.

[saaya]

guys, please post your results here
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43417

thx

[Radelon]

$7 heat sink and getting that man....what are your temps? What kind of $7 heatsink is that???

Here's the
CoolerMaster SK8

Remember I put a YS Tech 5k rpm fan on there is the only difference. Heck I just used the stock thermal pad too. As for temps, we are talkin' 38C Idle and 49C load