Mac Mini: VERY SLIM!

[Wiggy McShades]

PS. I'm even tougher IRL.

ya know up until now my work day has been pretty slow and boring, I'm glad you can make me laugh.

[Mats]

I'm even tougher IRL.

Maybe you got confused about "xtremesystems", this isn't a forum for hooking up with real men, tough men, or girly men.
We discuss technology, not people.

[Manicdan]

real men like the idea of packing lots of stuff into a very small space, which is what the mac mini is

[Wiggy McShades]

Maybe you got confused about "xtremesystems", this isn't a forum for hooking up with real men, tough men, or girly men.
We discuss technology, not people.

Tommy Toughguy here has a lot to learn give him a break.

[STaRGaZeR]

[Mats]

real men like the idea of packing lots of stuff into a very small space

Just like my avatar..

[Wiggy McShades]

Just like my avatar..

i just noticed your avatar isnt a house with a red circle behind it

[Mats]

i just noticed your avatar isnt a house with a red circle behind it

I see some kind of asian house in the sunset, I dunnooo what you're talking about.

[Insanity]

3. European prices include taxes.

Just wanted to correct this....

Of course european prices include taxes, but this don't even make the Mac Mini worth 799€.

At the time :
700$ = 566€

Taxes here in France are 19,6%.

566 + 19,6% = 676€.

I wonder why there is still a 123€ difference.

Too bad for Apple, priced accordingly to the hardware for a little more than 500€ it would have been the perfect HTPC for me.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I find it funny when people start putting other's down. This is an XTREME forum and it's an extremely small PC. End of story...

I could go off on the fact that I probably can lift heavier weights than anyone on the forum, but it's not MY place to say that nor is it relevant to the interests of people here.

Duniek (I believe that's his name) has made some really small custom acrylic cases for SFF pcs anywhere from mini itx to pico itx. Just because it's not an i7 doesn't mean it's garbage.

Has anyone seen any other ssf rigs like this that aren't ATOM based?

[Mats]

I wonder why there is still a 123€ difference.

Apple products tend to be more expensive in EU, even with taxes removed.
I don't see that kind of difference with motherboards or CPU's.

[Insanity]

Apple products tend to be more expensive in EU, even with taxes removed.
I don't see that kind of difference with motherboards or CPU's.

Yup, there is nowhere near this high of a markup for any other tech product.

I guess Apple just like to milk euro consumers...

[Wiggy McShades]

I have to agree with synthetic on his i7 comment. The 320m chipset is about as good as it gets for an integrated graphics controller and allows you to have a decent graphics processor (48 cuda cores instead of 16 like the 9300m) without adding in a third chip. If they had gone the i7 or i5 route it would of required 3 chips (cpu, sb, gpu) and as we can see from the board there is no room for a third. core2duo's are still competitive, but apparently no one likes them anymore.

[Insanity]

I have to agree with synthetic on his i7 comment. The 320m chipset is about as good as it gets for an integrated graphics controller and allows you to have a decent graphics processor (48 cuda cores instead of 16 like the 9300m) without adding in a third chip. If they had gone the i7 or i5 route it would of required 3 chips (cpu, sb, gpu) and as we can see from the board there is no room for a third. core2duo's are still competitive, but apparently no one likes them anymore.

Well, I'm in the camp of those that think the specs are kinda nice, but not at this price.

[Wiggy McShades]

Well, I'm in the camp of those that think the specs are kinda nice, but not at this price.

i completely agree, price is too high for the specs. I'm just saying there is a reasonable answer behind choosing c2d in this particular case, not so much on the price though.

[Manicdan]

^^im with the mentally unstable guy 2 posts above me,
not a bad pc, just way to much mac-mark-up

[Mats]

The 320m chipset is about as good as it gets for an integrated graphics controller and allows you to have a decent graphics processor (48 cuda cores instead of 16 like the 9300m) without adding in a third chip.

I think so too. Is there any IGP that even comes close to this one? I saw notebookchecks benchmarks, they looked too good to be true.
AMD is the only one who could have matched it IF they'd bothered (NB + SB tho), but they've been lazy with the IGP's.
Not much difference between the graphics in the 2.5 year old 780G and the 880G

[Zorlac]

I would buy one for my home theater if they put a Blu-Ray drive in there with proper software and bitstream audio out through the HDMI. Also, would be nice to change the HDD to an Intel SSD. Would be a badass home theater kit.

[h0bbes]

I would buy one for my home theater if they put a Blu-Ray drive in there with proper software and bitstream audio out through the HDMI. Also, would be nice to change the HDD to an Intel SSD. Would be a badass home theater kit.

and imagine how much it would cost.. more than double the price i would say

[Manicdan]

blue ray and SSD would be worth that price

[Baron_Davis]

Apple charges like $400 extra to double the RAM. Adding Bluray and an SSD would take it past $2K.

Wouldn't affect Apple's target audience, though. They don't know jack about computers. It's like taking a caveman to a supermarket that charges $4 an apple. When he tastes that apple, he'll think he's in heaven cause he's never tasted anything that good, and the price won't matter.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

This is why I brought the topic up in the first place.





I think EVERYONE, including myself, agrees that the cost is insanely high for this piece of hardware, and again, not the issue. I wonder how many times I'll have to mention that in this thread before people get it, lol.

[Manicdan]

whats the total volume difference between new and old?

what i think would be cool is if these had a special mount to fit on their monitors

[Mats]

But the thing is, there are people out there, prepared to pay a premium for BD and SSD, and Apple doesn't give them that. It would be so such easy money for them and yet they don't do it.
Upgrading those things by yourself won't cost more tho, probably less. But if you're into doing that you won't buy the Mac Mini in the first place...

[pwolfe]

you want the maccuffmini:

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/maccuffmini.html