E6900 or E8000 ?

[BlackX]

Spec:

E6900 4MB 3.20GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $969. us
E8000 4MB 3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB Q4 $1199. us (95 Watts)

As we see E6900 has 12x multi and E8000 has just 10x.
E6XXX serie can reach ~400FSB so its 400x12 = 4800MHz and hopefully new mobos with changeable voltage arive soon.

So is it worth to pay 230$ more for E8000 as we get lower clock?

[WildEye]

If Intel does to the E8000 as it has done to the 955 and 965 Extreme editions, it will have unlocked multiplier... so it could go higher than 12x

[BlackX]

yup, would be

[urbanfox]

Is the XE just a 10x 6700 with a faster stock FSB or is there architectural changes that would put the XE in the lead in terms of performance if both it and the 6700 were clocked the same?

[BlackX]

Is the XE just a 10x 6700 with a faster stock FSB or is there architectural changes that would put the XE in the lead in terms of performance if both it and the 6700 were clocked the same?

XE has different voltage, FSB and maybe unlocked multiplyer but architecture is the same.

[Thorburn]

XE will be unlocked and is certified for use on a 1333FSB.
It also opens up the overclocking features on Intel Extreme motherboards such as BadAxe.

[Vapor]

It's Intel's best silicon. Hasn't history already proven itself with their top-end CPUs? (780>>770, 67x>66x, 965>>950(or is it 960 now?), etc.)

If you want the best Intel CPU at both stock and end-OC, be willing to pay.

[Skyline GT-R]

XE will be unlocked and is certified for use on a 1333FSB.
It also opens up the overclocking features on Intel Extreme motherboards such as BadAxe.

You can unlock those features with the Intel Integrator Toolkit for every intel CPU There is a How To here in the intel section for doing that

[savantu]

XE has 10-60 multiplier

[massman]

who needs x60 anyway ? :p

[WildEye]

There are some confusion in the rumors about this one... some say it will be released in Q4, others that it will be the first one to hit the streets...

[Waus-mod]

as an sample but not retail.

[urbanfox]

There are some confusion in the rumors about this one... some say it will be released in Q4, others that it will be the first one to hit the streets...

Ye, I've read both and was confused as well.

I'm really hopinh it's the latter though

[Kjaks]

I would say E6900, because after seeing Merom and Conroe compared to each other it seems like Conroe doesn't really gain a lot due to the higher FSB speed. It gains a lot more of a higher core speed.

[BlackX]

XE has 10-60 multiplier

OMG
sorry for stupid question but what influence to CPU has bigger multi? instead of higher clock ofcourse.. I mean why its not possible to make 60x multi?

[Kjaks]

Well, say you've got a motherboard that manages to run a XE cpu at 400FSB maximum, that's 10x400=4000MHz core speed. The FSB can't go any higher than 400MHz, but then you raise the multi to 11x400=4400MHz core speed.

10x440MHz FSB will in most cases give more performance than 11x400MHz FSB, simply because the bus bandwidth is higher.

I really don't know why one can't use 60x multi, I've never seen anyone try. A XE at 3.33GHz with 60x multi will be limited to 55MHz FSB, and I guess that's not enough to make the cpu work well. I'm just guessing here..

[automagic]

My take on this is why spend the big bucks on the XE when all you really get is bragging rights. Spend $300 on a 2.4 conroe, then oc it and you'll have a really fast machine. IMHO

[charlie]

with unlocked multi and Intel's BEST silicon... it's the CHOICE. If the multi was LOCKED, however... then the E6900 would be better for OC'ers.

[LowRun]

My take on this is why spend the big bucks on the XE when all you really get is bragging rights. Spend $300 on a 2.4 conroe, then oc it and you'll have a really fast machine. IMHO

So very true but then again some people want every last drop of power higher multis could bring and they have the overclocked wallets to match, so why not?

[cupholder2.0]

XE will be unlocked and is certified for use on a 1333FSB.
It also opens up the overclocking features on Intel Extreme motherboards such as BadAxe.

No, you no longer need an EE for OC on intel boards. I used a 950 PD and I oced to 5 ghz (not stable)on a D955XBK. If it doesnt let you OC you just use Intel Integrator toolkit and unlock bios options

[caater]

is it sure a 3.2 conroe will be released this year?
I was under impression that 2.9 will be fastest "normal" core2..
at least for 2006

[GoldenTiger]

2.4ghz Conroe for me, 4MB L2 cache, $309. Looks like it'll be a beast!!! Sure, 9x multi, but for $700 extra I could get extra videocards, much better RAM, a bunch of great hard disks, etc. I know, I'm violating XS spirit by saying this, but the extra just isn't worth it in that case... I'm thinking a Conroe 2.4ghz stock could hit a good 3.2ghz or so on air which would be sweet !

[Thorburn]

No, you no longer need an EE for OC on intel boards. I used a 950 PD and I oced to 5 ghz (not stable)on a D955XBK. If it doesnt let you OC you just use Intel Integrator toolkit and unlock bios options

Didn't say you need it, just that it unlocks it
Of course there are other ways

[Thorburn]

My take on this is why spend the big bucks on the XE when all you really get is bragging rights. Spend $300 on a 2.4 conroe, then oc it and you'll have a really fast machine. IMHO

The XE offers the ultimate performance for people who don't want to overclock or for those who want the extra flexibility to get the optimum performance from there system by being able to choose the most suitable combination of FSB and multiplier.

[Absolute_0]

If you're going to pay that much anyway, go for the gold, XE