I need Kobe Tai to come over and bite my tongue.

**Lithan** · 06-06-2005, 08:05 AM

And right after several fanboys in Intel forums revive the old claim that Amd's cpu's aren't/weren't stable, I get to see this gem... http://www.tomshardware.com/stresstest/index.html

Really hard to follow but from what I gather it's an X2 vs an 840ee. (so 2 core vs 2 phys 2 virt cores). AMD's winning 3 of the 4 concurrent tests. Intel's winning video encoding because the AMD apparently has it set to lower priority than everything else. But most amusingly... the 840ee has crashed at least twice (the temp chart makes it look more like three times, since it's crashed right now). I can't find much info about it, but Id say it's a decent bet that it's temp and/or power related.

**Holst** · 06-06-2005, 08:39 AM

LOL.

Looking at the intel webcam the systems is gone, must be being repaired

**Lithan** · 06-06-2005, 08:50 AM

Lol, it'd be hilarious if the cpu burnt itself up or the draw fried the mobo and they are trying to replace it.

**Ref** · 06-06-2005, 08:54 AM

This should be shown to everyone considering PD and PEE ... and to every blind intel fanboy saying AMD is less stable

**Lithan** · 06-06-2005, 08:57 AM

Meh, they'd all just say that Tom is an AMD fanboy.

**esdee** · 06-06-2005, 08:59 AM

when both systems were online i recall the power consumption was around 800Watts.. now with the AMD rig only it's ~350W... this means 450W for the intel rig :O

**WeStSiDePLaYa** · 06-06-2005, 09:00 AM

yeah. ive been watching this since it started a few days ago, quite amusing. and yes, the encoding results do look very supsicous

***currently they are in the bios on the intel system, its been down for over an hour and a half, wow, this is great for amd supporters!

**Lithan** · 06-06-2005, 09:03 AM

Nah I'd just say it's the same sh*t when they'd set encoding to real time on single core AMD's and then start a game at low priority and get 4fps. Since AMD only has two cores (real or virtual) I'm actually surprised it's handling three intensive apps so well. I'd have expected it to be floundering on two of the four.

**Flip** · 06-06-2005, 09:04 AM

it must be Temp related!
Do you know which PSU they are using?
They are using a Turbocool 850!

They didn't want to have problems with the PSU
(in the last test a Targan blew in the AMD system)

**Lithan** · 06-06-2005, 09:06 AM

Ahh, Where did you find config info? I can't find it?

**Ref** · 06-06-2005, 09:08 AM

They were written in the other article.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2005...d_power_supply

**oqy77** · 06-06-2005, 09:10 AM

it's really there Sr. Lithan

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2005...d_power_supply
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2005...sstest-02.html

*lol.. Ref.. you're 2 minutes in fornt of me....

**[XC] leviathan18** · 06-06-2005, 09:14 AM

in the xtreme news i put a review about this article someone that is following this article very close found that the intel system has rebooted more times

edit: and i think something is wrong with the pcp&p for the amd system howing very low volts....

**3rd-Dimension** · 06-06-2005, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by leviathan18

in the xtreme news i put a review about this article someone that is following this article very close found that the intel system has rebooted more times

it has been rebooted more times than shown. they were fiddling with bios as mentioned earlier in thread. then got to windows for a bit. now showing a pic of bios yet again but reboot times still at 2....

edit: now back into windows again. and showing online again.

**WeStSiDePLaYa** · 06-06-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by 3rd-Dimension

it has been rebooted more times than shown. they were fiddling with bios as mentioned earlier in thread. then got to windows for a bit. now showing a pic of bios yet again but reboot times still at 2....

edit: now back into windows again. and showing online again.

by reboots they count, they ONLY count the reboots that occur AFTER a system crash. thats why the count hasnt gone up.

**WeStSiDePLaYa** · 06-06-2005, 09:51 AM

HOLY SH*T! i cant believe nobody has noticed yet, the intel rig has switched mobos! looks like it got burnt up or something! wow, this is not going well for intel at all.

**Noldor** · 06-06-2005, 09:54 AM

The intel rig is down again.

Too bad really.

Hhmm, refreshed page, seems like the intel rig is up and running now for about 20 minutes.

The whole test seems rather strange. The DivX encoding seems wierd for AMD and AMDs powersupply seems to be damaged as the voltages are REALLY low, but it seems to be holding up very good anyway. The intel system has had MANY more reboots, but it isnt registered?

**Ref** · 06-06-2005, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

HOLY SH*T! i cant believe nobody has noticed yet, the intel rig has switched mobos! looks like it got burnt up or something! wow, this is not going well for intel at all.

Yeah it is different for sure. Wonders what will be the reason THG says ...

**i found nemo** · 06-06-2005, 11:05 AM

HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUNNY shi* right there, my sempron could take that.....ok maybe not

**dnottis** · 06-06-2005, 11:35 AM

Being a pro Intel site - those results must be killing them. I wonder how badly they have the fight the temptation to reset the AMD just to even the score?

It is a great way to get Intel to pony up some $$$ though, wonder how much they would offer to skew the results.

**CNCL** · 06-06-2005, 11:56 AM

Hmm, very interesting test

**3rd-Dimension** · 06-06-2005, 12:22 PM

Hey wtf I just noticed something. For dual channel ram don't you have to put ram in slots 1 and 3 or 2 and 4 in order to run dual channel mode? The intel has it in 1 and 3 as shown here http://www.tomshardware.com/stresstest/intel.html but the amd one has it in 1 and 2 as shown here http://www.tomshardware.com/stresstest/amd.html Doesnt that mean they are killing the Amds bandwidth? Or have I missed the part where amd works dual channel with ram in any slot??

**bachus_anonym** · 06-06-2005, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by 3rd-Dimension

Hey wtf I just noticed something. For dual channel ram don't you have to put ram in slots 1 and 3 or 2 and 4 in order to run dual channel mode? The intel has it in 1 and 3 as shown here http://www.tomshardware.com/stresstest/intel.html but the amd one has it in 1 and 2 as shown here http://www.tomshardware.com/stresstest/amd.html Doesnt that mean they are killing the Amds bandwidth? Or have I missed the part where amd works dual channel with ram in any slot??

Nope, it's installed properly. As long as modules are installed in DIMM slots of the same color - it's Dual Channel

**3rd-Dimension** · 06-06-2005, 12:46 PM

ahh k so its dependant on color now. wicked stuff.

**Major** · 06-06-2005, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by dnottis

Being a pro Intel site - those results must be killing them. I wonder how badly they have the fight the temptation to reset the AMD just to even the score?

It is a great way to get Intel to pony up some $$$ though, wonder how much they would offer to skew the results.

I've always felt Tom's was pretty fair and unbiased regarding AMD and Intel, for that matter Nvidia and ATI too.

Now if this was being done at [H] ? (am I allowed to say that ?) lol

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