Mobile Pentium 4 3.33 GHz is something to look at...

[lutjens]

Heard a couple of days back about the Pentium 4 3.33GHz Mobile that was just released.

This chip could be VERY interesting...it'll default to a 14x multiplier, is very likely out of the top speed bin and comes in a Socket 478 package (for those of us who dislike being told to replace all the major parts in your computer). And best of all....it's E0 stepping...looks to me like it's the first retail part on that stepping.

I wonder what one of these suckers could do with forgiving memory and a cool northbridge...4 GHz on retail HSF should be an almost certainty.

Would be interesting to see what temps they run at too...

The S-spec has been updated already too to include the new chip (out of character for Intel)

http://processorfinder.intel.com/scr...ALL&CorSpd=ALL

[eva2000]

very interesting

[Lithan]

They are Prescotts? Meh. I'll stick with my 3.8ghz Northwood.

[jjcom]

I'm still very interested to know how Intel made a mobile processor out the Prescott. They run hot in a desktop. How do they keep cool in a laptop????

[lutjens]

Speedstep...

I'm hoping this E0 stepping might actually have a few selectable multipliers (due to Enhanced Speedstep).

Here's hoping...

[saaya]

They run hot in a desktop. How do they keep cool in a laptop????

they dont

all notebook buildiers are complaining about the heat and dont know how to cool them... plus they consume a lot of power wich cuts the battery life.

seriosuly, a 3ghz prescott isnt really faster than a 2ghz dothan and a mobile prescott costs almost the same as a dothan 2ghz with 2MB L2 cache wich probably consumes half the power and is almost as fast as the mobile prescott... i dont get why intel is selling mobile prescotts at all and why notebook manufacturers are building notebooks with them at all...

[jjcom]

yeah I know. Whats the point, the mobile chips would be of a higher quality so they can run on less voltage, which means less heat. BUT Intel can't even get their 3.6ghz Prescotts to us so why are they worrying about mobile Hotplates??

[lutjens]

These 3.33's are almost guaranteed to be coming out of the 3.6GHz speed bin, as to allow them to run@3.33 GHz at a lower voltage.

The ES's based on E0 stepping seem to have a lower heat production than
the D0 and older counterparts. Hopefully the difference is significant...

What we get with this chip is this: a 14x multiplier, top speed bin, Socket 478 package, E0 stepping, Enhanced SpeedStep (the value of which is still undetermined), and a reasonable price ($262 US). It has the potential to make for some cheap uber FSB gaming monsters....I'd even be so bold as to think that maybe 300 FSB is obtainable from these chips on air (depends on how good E0 is) and given excellent CPU/Northbridge cooling and the top memory. This iteration of Prescott is much more attractive (to me at least) than the first releases of this chip (or the LGA775 derivative).

Can't get much better than that though (actually we could....we could have EMT64 enabled, as it is present on the chip). But we can't ask for too much from Intel, right...I'd be happy if they actually delivered this chip before Christmas

I'm checking into availability...if nothing else, it'll be a good plaything...

[jjcom]

yeah...lets see they just released this so it will make it to us in about....6months? lol sad but hey if its good then lets not complain.

[IamAnoobieCheez]

..... blah blah blah.... blah blah.. worrying about mobile Hotplates??

LOL lol... lol..... mobile hotplates.. HA HA i like that



I too, think that's gonna be a good chip. As said, will probably the chip to oc with, requring less voltage to get x mhz, meaning less heat than the one would require more v's.

[Peen]

These are the camper special Notebooks they sell in. You see, the Heatsink is actually a stove that comes out of the side to cook your chili and what not

[jjcom]

yeah nice...need to get one of those for a boy scout camp out...."Dinner's almost done" "NO the battery went dead"

[Vryada]

These 3.33's are almost guaranteed to be coming out of the 3.6GHz speed bin, as to allow them to run@3.33 GHz at a lower voltage.

100% agree.

[lutjens]

I was just reading the techincal specifications of the Enhanced Speedstep. Looks like the implementation is completely software controlled.

Also states the following: "Unlike previous implementations of Intel SpeedStep technology, this technology will enable the processor to switch between
multiple voltage and operating frequency points instead of two."

Looking good on the downward unlocked front.

With the processor downward unlocked from 25x, it may as well be fully unlocked. The lack of multipliers above 25x will be of no consequence whatsoever, except for those really extreme folks who play above 5 GHz.

[saaya]

yeah nice...need to get one of those for a boy scout camp out...."Dinner's almost done" "NO the battery went dead"

[jjcom]

UNLOCKED MULTI. YEAH finnally Intel has learned something. who knows if we'll be allowed to use them tho.

[perfekt!57]

U]Heard a couple of days back about the Pentium 4 3.33GHz Mobile that was just released.

This chip could be VERY interesting...it'll default to a 14x multiplier[/U]


i thought, that it would be a fsb 133 mhz-cpu? hoped of multi 25x for oc-records?

3333/14=238 ?

p.

[Gogeta]

So judging from the comments on FSB overclocking, this mobile Prescott with the socket 478 package will run in desktop boards? Probably too early to tell.

[jjcom]

yeah....Intel could put it in that moddified 478 socket...like the Pentium M.

[Gogeta]

yeah....Intel could put it in that moddified 478 socket...like the Pentium M.

Sigh...that would be another letdown. Do current P4-M socket 478 cpus run in desktop boards?

[jjcom]

I know that the NW P4-Ms did....at least some...but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was in the Pentium M socket

[caater]

it's a 133fsb mobile p4 and mobiles tend to default to a lowest
speedstep multiplier.. which is 14x for 133mhz ones.. i presume?
i might be wrong about those DTR mobiles though..

but anyway - with its enhanced speedstep, it could default to
something like 10x also or smth?

i thought, that it would be a fsb 133 mhz-cpu? hoped of multi 25x for oc-records?

3333/14=238 ?

p.

[perfekt!57]

look here:

http://www.intel.com/cd/products/ser...ors/102355.htm

(notebookprozessors with hyper-threading). it does not say anything about the 3.3 gig cpu to come, but it should belong there, because the 2,8 mobile is there as well. socket "pga478" (the ususal 478 pin grid array?)

and could somebody recheck plse. here:

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/intro.aspx

resp. here:

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/...spx?familyID=1

click 90nm 2,8 a, first in third box, where then at least the 2,8 mobile (spec: fc-pga4) should be simmilar to this one the right side, i presume:

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/...622&familyID=1

fitting into 865pe, but with fsb 133. so question BIOS.


and the 3.33 mobile is said do follow 2,8 mobile footprints? yes or no... ?

[tanghiro]

very interesting

Yes, it is very interresting CPU. A (bad) friend of mine have one but have no desk board to test it.
So the chip, Mobile P4 3.46G, came to my place for testing. I have tested it on many 875 boards, Asus, Gigabyte, Epox, Abit and some 865/845 boards.
The only one, which run the cpu with 95% successful is IC7 , Bios-Ver.26.(need some trick)
The remained 5% are, wrong frequency determination by most utilities and some other thing I do not know.
The chip cache latency is almost twice longer than normal Prescott E. so it run slower.
The default Vcore is 1.120V. So the temperature is very low.
On desk board, it only can run at x14, even it is an ES.
Overclock?, at Vcore 1.4875V it run at 4200MHz~4300Mhz, with acceptable temperature(50c).
I said a (bad) friend, because he took back his cpu with my IC7.

eva200, how is going.

[perfekt!57]

thanks for sharing your experÃ:banana:ence. was a great help indeed. all the best to taipei for now. maybe not the best cpu to crack the 5.0 gig barier....