65nm 3500+ WaterCooled actions...

[Lightman]

Hi everyone!

Tonight I want to play a bit with my new rev. G1 3500+ CPU.
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I hope my medicore mobo will stand up to this task (MSI K9N Ultra 2F).
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Memory seems to come form very good family (D9GMH are used on 1066MHz DIMMS rated 2.1V and 800MHz 4-4-4-12 Crucial Ballistix rated 2.2V ). I've paid only around $70.00 per 1GB.

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Now it's time for some fun with screwdriver so I will be back in few hours. Please post some Benchmark propositions and keep in mind that I'm using XP Pro x64 edition so no native 32bit comparision possible.

[Bootup05]

Double images?
Nice Camera & shots BTW
that mem looks nice, is it OEM? or did you take the heatspreaders off?

EDIT: Ah right, Crucial

[hstuehmeyer2000]

all of your other parts are nice, why get a neo-f?

[funnyperson1]

Nice man, where'd you get those Crucial sticks for that price?

Can't wait to see the results.

The motherboard shouldn't be a huge deal with the 11x multi, should be good enough to hit 3ghz+.

[triple_A]

i'm really curious to see what these chips can do

[Duh]

what cam did you use? i am too lazy to see the excif

[Lightman]

Sorry for long delay but I hit several walls:
1. My waterblock is not good for AM2 , but luckily I had my 5 years old mega block for Athlon XP which fit perfectly in AM2 frame .


2. My MSI can't recognize 65nm CPU . I need 90nm chip to flash this bloody mobo to latest BIOS. Again I'm lucky because in my car boot is complete X2 3800+ system so I will go and get that one now !

Some answers to your questions:

@Duh My camera is a normal Kodak Z-740 5Mpx Very good for its price!
@Funnyperson1 http://www.dabs4work.com/productview...QuickLinx=3R5L
hstuehmeyer2000 Because I had low budget for my client computer.
Bootup05Double images are because if you add them to xtremesystems server they will be shown below your post (no option to disable this )

[VVJ]

Lightman, don't forget to check your processor with CBId! ;-) Good luck!

[high5]

Double images are because if you add them to xtremesystems server they will be shown below your post (no option to disable this )

Nope. They wouldn't be doubled if you inserted them properly:

[Lightman]

Nope. They wouldn't be doubled if you inserted them properly:

I own you !!

Thanks for TIP!

[high5]

I own you !!

Thanks for TIP!

No problemo.

Now get to work and post some stuff!

[Lightman]

Finally up and running (on air for now)

Default screens :



Now I will try to OC a bit and put water on it!

[VVJ]

Lightman
Oh! I very much appreciate you for using CBId! Have you tried to change a HT multiplier? According to the report your CPU supports 1000 MHz HTL speed, but a current HTL frequency is 800 MHz. BTW, You have a really good CPU ;-)

[Lightman]

Lightman
Oh! I very much appreciate you for using CBId! Have you tried to change a HT multiplier? According to the report your CPU supports 1000 MHz HTL speed, but a current HTL frequency is 800 MHz. BTW, You have a really good CPU ;-)

Great pice of soft
Yes I set HTT to 800MT in BIOS.

I found some interesting thing about this MSI mobo. Chceck this out:


As you can see CBId (and many others like SiSoftSandra/ScienceMark2/etc) is showing CPU Freq 2200MHz, but other half of diagnostic software (cpu-z/PC Wizard/Everest/CrystalCPUID) is showing 2750MHz set in Windows using nTune. Any ideas?? Besides Cinebench test and SuperPI are showing nice speedup compared to stock but SiSoft is producing results exactly same as for 2200MHz stock system .
This MSI mobo is wired, but I'm absolutely happy with memory I bought - 916MHz @2.1V and that's not the end !

BTW screen abowe is at stock Volts and CPU-Z is showing correct value (set in BIOS 1.35V, MB is giving 1,32V).

[Lightman]

@|JACK- - heh almost same as mine have a look:



From Bios I have wired kind of wall @ 240+ HTT..

Suicide shots around 3.15GHz@1.52V!! Now I will push 1.6V and we see what will happend .


EDIT: I tryed 1.62V but it not improved OCing at all! 3.2GHz for 5 seconds and reboot

[akaBruno]

Let it ride for a couple o' days and hit it again. I'm no big burn in fan. I just push the V and use them as I normally would to do a slow burn. THEN HIT IT!

[hstuehmeyer2000]

maybe you should find the max fsb of you motherboard

[Lightman]

I overcome low HTT from BIOS issue. ?this mobo hates average HTT clocks and to boot up over 240HTT I lowered divider to 2x (400MHz) !!!! This allowed me to up HTT in BIOS up to 260MHz. MSI.

On the other hand I noticed that this mobo doesn't have PCI lock!! That is the reason that I can't clock it stable over 3030MHz . Around 2950MHz my wi-fi pci card is dissapearing because of PCI clocked @44MHz!!

Now it's time for some SS:

Memory is GREAT as for it's price, 4-4-4-12-15 Cr2@856MHz easy@2.1V (I didn't try lower volts because chips are very cool on DIMM )


At this clock system is unstable for any longer 3D actions due to high PCI clock but SuperPi don't care about that .



Just for the record I did SuperPi run with 4-4-4-12-15 Cr2 timing and get 30.7Sec. @3000MHz but forgot to take a pic. Also when I lowered HTT divider to 2x SuperPi greatly slows down (about 7 seconds longer for 1M@3000MHz) .

Enjoy!

[triple_A]

too bad there isn't a pci lock on it...

my guess is it would be a significant amount of seconds faster when @ dual channel

BTW nice mem

[Lightman]

too bad there isn't a pci lock on it...

my guess is it would be a significant amount of seconds faster when @ dual channel

BTW nice mem

HTT is limiting SuperPi badly...
but mem is VERY NICE


@2.2v


again PCI limiting me mayby i should tighten timings a bit more??

And some good old 3D Mark2001

I focused on high memory speeds rather than CPU and I think more can be done with that. BTW some specs X800RX(R480BiosMod, 8p,6v), Cat.7.2/XP x64.

[VVJ]

Lightman:

As you can see CBId (and many others like SiSoftSandra/ScienceMark2/etc) is showing CPU Freq 2200MHz, but other half of diagnostic software (cpu-z/PC Wizard/Everest/CrystalCPUID) is showing 2750MHz set in Windows using nTune. Any ideas??

Maybe I missed something out, but could you tell me please, what version of Windows do you use? I suspect that lack may happen, but it is specific for Windows x64 family only. BTW, does CBId allow you to change the HT multiplier (the Work Frequencies list box under the Controller tab)?

[Lightman]

Lightman:

Maybe I missed something out, but could you tell me please, what version of Windows do you use? I suspect that lack may happen, but it is specific for Windows x64 family only. BTW, does CBId allow you to change the HT multiplier (the Work Frequencies list box under the Controller tab)?

I'm using Windows XP Pro x64 SP1.
Yes your software works flawlessly . I can change HTT/vCore/memory timings/FID/...!

[VVJ]

Lightman:

I'm using Windows XP Pro x64 SP1.

Bingo! I was right That problem really happens in Windows x64 and is related to the TSC (Time Stamp Counter) correction, and I am about to fix the lack.

Yes your software works flawlessly. I can change HTT/vCore/memory timings/FID/...!

Oh, very good! Thanks for the feedback, Lightman!

[Lightman]

VVJ let me know when you update CBId for XP x64. I would like to test it straight away!

[VVJ]

Lightman, check a new version of CBId 8.21. I have improved a CPU clock frequency measurement for Windows XP x64 OS. Now, when a CPU clock ratio is changed the CPU clock frequency is changed respectively and reported by CBId properly.