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    Review: Thermalright Ultima-90 ES vs TT120 (56k warn)

    Review: Thermalright Ultima-90 ES vs Tuniq Tower 120

    Thermalright has been releasing some interesting new products recently. I'd like to show you an engineering sample of what could be described as the “little brother” to the yet to be released Ultra 120 Extreme, the Ultima-90.

    The Ultima-90 with 92mm Fan (Fan will probably not be included in production models)


    Every review needs a known entity to compare a subject to and I chose the Sunbeam Tuniq Tower 120. The Tuniq has been one of the gold standards of high end air cooling for the past year.

    The two coolers. The Ultima-90 is mainly intended for 92mm fans, but the sample I received included 120mm fan clips. I'll focus on 120mm fan performance.


    Profile of the Ultima-90 and Tuniq


    The Base of each, pre-lapped


    Heatpipe configuration


    Heatsink Dimensions

    Thermalright Ultima-90(i)
    48 fins 6 heat pipes
    Heatsink size (LxWxH) 115 x 55 x 138
    Heatpipe width = 6mm
    Weight without fan = 453g

    Sunbeam Tuniq Tower
    51 fins 3 heatpipes
    Size (LxWxH) 131x108x153
    Heatpipe Width = 6mm
    Weight with Fan = 965g

    Testing Configuration

    - Open Test Bench with Asus P5B-D
    - Both Heatsinks lapped
    - Lapped e6400
    - Temperature measured by CoreTemp beta 0.94
    - Load temperatures established by Orthos smallftt set at priority 9 for 5 minutes
    - Idle temps established by idle time of 15 minutes with minimal XP background applications
    - Ambient 20c-21c
    - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Grease with 48 hour “burn-in.” Note: The best application of TIM was used for each Heatsink.
    - Bolt-thru mounting for each HS. The Ultima-90 should also offer push pins in the kit.

    The test bed


    Testing:

    I'll dispense with stock settings as they shouldn't apply to this level of performance and move to some decent overclocking of an e6400 (L630A992) at 3.5Ghz and 3.7Ghz. Vcore is the issue, so let's see the results.

    Test 1) E6400 3.5Ghz (7x500) - 1.36 VCore - As5 - 20c-21c Ambient
    Idle and Load Temperatures
    Tuniq (Stock Fan) – 27c idle – 51c load
    Ultima-90 (Scythe S-Flex) - 27c idle – 47c load

    Tuniq Load at 3.5Ghz screenshot - http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r...-36v_1900_.jpg

    Ultima-90 Load at 3.5Ghz screenshot -
    http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r...1c_1-36v_1.jpg

    For test 2 I decided to use the stock Tuniq Fan at full rpm for each heatsink, reviews that ignore this methodology always concern me.

    Test 2) E6400 3.7Ghz (8x463) - 1.4875 VCore - Arctic Silver 5 TIM - 120mm Fan (used Tuniq Fan on both for 1 to 1 comparison) - 20c-21c Ambient
    Idle and load Temperatures
    Tuniq - Idle 33c - Load 62c
    Ultima-90 - Idle 32c – Load 57c

    Tuniq at 3.7Ghz – 1.48 vcore - Load


    Ultima-90 at 3.7Ghz – 1.48 vcore - Load


    Looking at the Ultima-90 I bet “push-pull” has entered your minds, so let see a result from two Scythe S-Flex-F fans in a push pull configuration.

    Test 3) – Same as test 2 except Ultima-90 is in push pull using Scythe S-Flex-F fans at full rpm.
    Ultima-90 - Idle 32c – Load 54c

    Screen Shot of Test 3
    http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...1c_1-48v_S.jpg

    Test 4) - Same as Test 2 except a single high rpm/high cfm 92mm fan (Panaflo 70cfm) was used
    Ultima-90 - Idle 32 - Load 53c

    Screenshot of Test 4
    http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...1c_1-48v_9.jpg

    Noise:

    Noise is a matter of taste and mine leans towards the quite side. The Scythe S-Flex was very silent into the 1300rpm ranges. The Tuniq fan was quite loud in the upper ranges as is any fan. One thing worth mentioning was that the S-Flex was noticeably less efficient while in the Tuniq.


    Final Remarks

    The Ultima-90 has delivered some note worthy results in the two weeks spent testing. The Ultima-90, in conjunction with an e6400 is outperforming a heatsink that dwarfs it in size - why? The answer could be in the heat pipe number combined with the large amount of fins. There are 6 heatpipe coolers such as the Scythe Ninja and 45+ fin coolers like the Tuniq. The performance differential between the Ultima-90 and Tuniq appears to come from combining the two. A 48 fin cooler with 6x6mm heatpipes seems very efficient at heat dissipation. Therein is the difference, never in my searching have a found a heatsink that so densely packs the two together. Distance between the base and the bottom fins may also come into play. Heat does not have to travel long on the Ultima-90 before it reaches the lowest fins. Lastly, the Ultima-90 heatpipes converge right at the beginning and travel the breadth of the base.

    For the future, I look forward to more examples of employing 7-9mm heatpipe solutions as has been done on the Enzotech Ultra-X and Thermalright IFX-14.

    At this point, I have to say the Ultima-90, once delivered, should be an outstanding high performance cooler at what will probably be a reasonable price.

    I'd like to thank Thermalright for sending me this engineering sample and SVC.com for sending the Tuniq out quickly and in good condition.

    Many thanks also must go out to ChaosMinionX at Xtremesystems forums for helping me in the methodology of this review. I promise I will get a run of coollabs liquid pro in soon!

    If there are any requests or questions please ask them. I'm hitting a bit of a wall with my e6400 at 3.8Ghz, but I could do some suicide runs with 1.5-1.6 vcore...

    Cheers ~ Battle_Rattle

    Addendum:

    Several people expressed interest in performance differences between heatpipes oriented vertically (as they are in the original testing) and horizontally, as they would be in most computer cases. I tested this, here are the results in degrees of change.

    Tuniq
    Vertical Idle to Horizontal Idle = Delta rise of 1c
    Vertical Load to Horizontal Load = No Change

    Ultima-90
    Vertical Idle to Horizontal Idle = Delta rise of 1c
    Vertical Load to Horizontal Load = Delta rise of 1c
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    Very nice review and HSF....can't wait for this, the big brother to this and the IFX-14 as well...

    Also, is it just me or is this just a short version of the Ultra-120 Extreme? Seems to be the same dimensions otherwise

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    wow those are great results and its like half of the weight of the Tuniq....

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    Man, Thermalright's back and they want the crown forever!
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    Thermalright has definatly been setting a new standard for air cooling.
    I like that thier results are consistent from various websites and different reviewers. so it doesnt seem like just a anomaly from 1 site.

    they are making some top knotch stuff indeed.




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    i would be dissapointed if it didnt do better, it has twice the number of heatpipes than the tuniq
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    WOw

    that is very good

    i think my next heatsink will be the Ultima-120
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    very nice!!

    you have posted this review in about 50 different forums. is it your review ?

    and where is the price ? availability ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
    very nice!!

    you have posted this review in about 50 different forums. is it your review ?

    and where is the price ? availability ?

    Yeh it is.... I posted in the 4 tech forums that I actively post in and lurk in... We must have similar tastes.

    When will the Ultra-120 Extreme, Ultima-90, and IFX-14 be out? No clue, but I would imagine it would be available thoughout their entire dealer network...

    Btw... someone posted that I didn't test this right because the heatpipes were oriented vertically on not horizontally. I need an extra pair of hands to help me but the Idle delta from vertical to horizontal was a rise of 1c... In the interest of completeness ill put another round in and post an addendum.
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    that shouldn't matter with these particular heatpipe designs. the only heatpipe cooler that I know with extreme problems with vertical mounting is the HR-03 series.
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    Stunning results from that new cooler. This looks like the cooler I've been wanting for a while.
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    How is the mounting for s775 on the ultra-90?

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    I'm glad to see Thermalright stepping up their game again. Great review.

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    I dunno wuts up with thermalright lately. They're really trying to rip through every last piece of competition in front of them.

    The only problem now is WHERE DO I GET ONE!!!!!!

    I've been waiting 4 the Ultra 120 Extreme or IFX 14 to come out so i can slap it on my E6600.

    I'm really curious to know if the IFX 14 actually beats the Ultra 120 Extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ineedaname View Post
    I'm really curious to know if the IFX 14 actually beats the Ultra 120 Extreme.
    considering simply, physics ... it's likely the IX-14 will be the best performing and most modifiable air cooler we've ever seen.

    ...

    otherwise, and to the reviewer ...

    kick arse work!!

    so glad to see that better performance can be had with half the size/space.

    ...

    but me?

    i'm waiting for the IX-14.

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    thermalright is going to be competing with no one but themselves soon haha.

    looks like im going to have to finnaly get off the TTBT wagon. Makes me sad.

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    nice review and thanks. what is the price on this bad boy.

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    This seems to be what I've been looking for, in fact I almost bit on the Ultra 90 several times. The width is what I'm concerned with as it will most likely fit in my case. =] =] =] =]

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    very nice.. looking forward for this hsf..
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    nice review


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    if it doesnt come with the useless push pins il put one in my next build , nice review
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    This ultima-90 is a real gem, light, performant and VERY CHEAP

    I cant wait for the new TR coolers, I'm getting an Enzo.
    I dont think i'll be disappointed

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    when is this supposed to hit the streets?
    in the USA that is.
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    Great review, seems to be good choice.

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    AFAIK is already available (and cheap).

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