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    DFI RD600 overclocking tutorial and an demostration of DDRII 1200 achievement

    Recently, there are two new chipset released in market.
    They are Nvidia’s 650/680i and ATI’s RD600.
    The performance of both the board is real good.

    DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G adopts ATI RD600 chipset






    Most of the enthusiasts realized that DFI LANParty series has a very good OC
    performance.
    Moreover, BIOS settings is also fabulous…

    Frankly, I’m personally not drive the board well from very beginning. But after
    I’ve found the knack to this board, I was getting better and better each
    time I OC.
    I’d like to share some tricks about BIOS of this board to you guys. We can
    start from FSB500 and DDRII 1200 as a basis. Coz, DRAM settings of this
    mobo is totally separate from CPU.
    So, if you got a very good memory, you might capable to create a new
    history record.

    Let’s get to the point here:
    About voltage setting, the most important thing that we have to do is to rise
    up FSB.
    Therefore, you have to take these voltage options: CPU VTT, NB CORE, NB
    PLL, and NB Core.




    CPU’s FSB 500/ DRAM frequency: 601/ PCIE 100.




    The DRAM adjusting options:
    DDRII 1200 CL4-4-4-9 2T, the others of below options are the “performance optimized” options.






    The detail of my test bed
    CPU:INTEL Core 2 Extreme X6800
    MB: Nvidia nForce 680i SLI
    DRAMFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G
    VGA:ELSA GLADIAC 790GS PH2 256DT
    HD:Seagate 7200.7 160GB
    POWER:Corsair HX620W Modular Power Supply
    Cooler:TT Big Typhoon VX

    FSB500/ DDRII1200 is the starting point.

    The first memory modual:
    Mushkin Tuner XP Redline
    The default setting: DDRII 1000 CL4 5-4-11




    DDRII 1200 CL4 4-4-9 2T 2.54V(BIOS:2.57V)
    Super PI 32M finished




    The second memory modual
    Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C3
    Default: DDRII 800 CL3 4-3-9




    DDRII 1200 CL4 4-4-9 2T 2.49V(BIOS:2.52V)
    Super PI 32M finished




    The 3rd memory modual:
    Patriot PDC21GB8000+XBLK
    Default: DDRII 667 CL3 3-3/DDRII 1000 CL4 4-4




    DDRII 1200 CL4 4-4-9 2T 2.52V(BIOS:2.54V)
    Super PI 32M finished




    Actually, after I’ve set the 1st & 2nd memory to run in DDRII 1200(1GB x 2)

    Then, the 3rd one I tried whether the voltage can be a bit lower or not (by
    512MB x 2)
    Finally, it ends up with a “about the same” result. It seems this model is not
    better than the 1st and 2nd one.


    The 4th memory modual
    CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
    Default: DDRII 1111 CL4 4-4-12




    CPU is in FSB 511status
    DDRII 1200 CL4 4-4-9 2T 2.35V(BIOS:2.37V)
    Ends up in Super PI 32M




    I tried to found out how much of voltage I should add to NB when I want the
    FSB is higher than 500.

    Status I, when NB only has a fan-less solution:




    Super PI 32M (the OS of this test is moved from 975/ 650i with reinstallation, so, the PI result will be slower than the normal one)




    Status II: If we put a air cooling to enhance heat reduction,




    Super PI 32M




    NB has a fan: CPU VTT 1.44V/NB CORE 1.82V/NB PLL 2.31V/NB Core 1.89V
    NB without a fan: CPU VTT 1.44V/NB CORE 1.76V/NB PLL 2.21V/NB Core 1.81V

    I found that the heat of NB seems high is caused by the “temperature
    monitoring” program.
    When I put my finger on the top of NB’s heat sink, actually, it’s only “warmly”
    not hot. I can say 975/965 is a bit hotter than RD600’s NB. So, the actual
    temperature of it is 10 to 15C lower than what system shows.

    BTW, the highest FSB under BIOS seems around 511Mhz,
    If you use a AMD tweaking software under OS, it can push a little to 520Mhz,
    furthermore, if you decrease the clockGen voltage inside the BIOS, then, you
    might push FSB higher than 520Mhz.

    The lines above is my personally experience of DFI RD600
    Hope all these can help other enthusiast who has the same board.
    Compare to other Intel base platform mobos, RD 600 is truly has many
    advantages.
    I hope the price of it can be a little bit lower, let us has lot more choices!!

    some war booty I grab from PC mall recently



    Last edited by windwithme; 02-16-2007 at 04:49 AM.

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    very nice
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    Nice guide, I'll have to try some of this out and see how it works for me.

    I really appreciate many members taking time to put out some good info on this board as it's a fun board for me with tons of potential.

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    Thanks for the work windwithme.


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    Not crapping this thread but AMD specifically told me running over 1.5V on the Nb will kill it in a matter of days thru electron migration.

    I advise 1.5V max as does DFI on their forum, with jumps to 1.7 or so for benching but NOT 24/7.

    I revised my OC guide on this advise and would advise caution running the NB voltages shown here.
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    Thanks for the guide. Very usefull, similar Settings I have, so I could try.

    Tony, about running those high voltages on NB creating electromigration is right. But, are you talking with stock heatsink. Could this issue be fixed with a good Water Block? at least to say 1.7v stable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain XS
    Thanks for the guide. Very usefull, similar Settings I have, so I could try.

    Tony, about running those high voltages on NB creating electromigration is right. But, are you talking with stock heatsink. Could this issue be fixed with a good Water Block? at least to say 1.7v stable?
    I think tony mentioned DFI had run test samples with 1.6-1.7v with no damage however I dont know the duration of the test. AMD as the chip designer would know more and I would trust them. Simple fact is that people have killed their chip with 2.0 core voltage in around 7 hours I believe. Bingo13 can attest to that.

    Electron migration is more seperate than close to heat I believe. The higher voltage draws more amps and that's what causes it I think. Heat is another source of damage as well. maybe if you phased it it'd do better though.

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    you will experience deterioration of oc potential with prolonged exposure to high vnb, I have benched 3d mark 01 with the vnb at full at ddr1300, but the chipset does not hold out for long in terms of it's oc ability, this was with water cooling so the nb was sub 50 degs. For quick races you can bump (as benchers invariably will) but not for 24/7, I'm with Tony on this one, and both of us have the board, I actually use mine 24/7 rather than a quick drop of screenshots, funky crystals won't keep the nb alive..
    Last edited by Raja@ASUS; 02-16-2007 at 11:31 AM.

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    gj i still cant get mine over about 590 on the memory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain XS
    Thanks for the guide. Very usefull, similar Settings I have, so I could try.

    Tony, about running those high voltages on NB creating electromigration is right. But, are you talking with stock heatsink. Could this issue be fixed with a good Water Block? at least to say 1.7v stable?
    I dobut it. Personally, I would not run over 1.59v as FCG has had very good results with that.

    The best solution to RD600 is to not buy rd600 unfortunatly

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    I like the board, but I wouldn't recommend for someone without a E6600-X6800 as a primary system with 24/7 use. With 1.5v on the NB being the max safe voltage, this puts it in the same category as the 975X boards for max 24/7 FSB overclocks. 1.5vnb will not get you even 450FSB in most cases. Combine that with the performance results it seems the only advantage of this board is the asynchronis memory clocks. I use the board for testing cpu's & memory now. Trying out the IN9 32 Max in hopes it will replace my P5W DH as my primary gaming box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Nemesis
    I like the board, but I wouldn't recommend for someone without a E6600-X6800 as a primary system with 24/7 use. With 1.5v on the NB being the max safe voltage, this puts it in the same category as the 975X boards for max 24/7 FSB overclocks. 1.5vnb will not get you even 450FSB in most cases. Combine that with the performance results it seems the only advantage of this board is the asynchronis memory clocks. I use the board for testing cpu's & memory now. Trying out the IN9 32 Max in hopes it will replace my P5W DH as my primary gaming box.
    Oh, make a thread about your results the IN9

    I am going to try the QuadGT, as 1066 on 965 is fast and I do not need SLI

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    Quote Originally Posted by fhpchris
    Oh, make a thread about your results the IN9

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    gotta say I am disappointedwith the RD600 based on expectations....I cant run 1T without really boosting voltages...

    way too expensive and I should have gotten the Badaxe 2....this board while I am 24hrs blend stable @3420 (9x380)...nothing special with 10th anniv crucial at DDR800 but at 2T.... I got nothing extra from this mobo except taken for extra $70....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nealh
    gotta say I am disappointedwith the RD600 based on expectations....I cant run 1T without really boosting voltages...

    way too expensive and I should have gotten the Badaxe 2....this board while I am 24hrs blend stable @3420 (9x380)...nothing special with 10th anniv crucial at DDR800 but at 2T.... I got nothing extra from this mobo except taken for extra $70....
    Kinda sad, my RD600 cannot even pass 32m @ 430 fsb...

    nd 13.4sec 1m @ 4005 mhz

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    iirc, electromigration is just an innate issue depending on the insulation material used, as well as just brute voltage. better cooling won't do much in the way of preventing it, unfortunately.

    Also, I think when you summarized in the text after the pics, the voltages for fanned operation and fanless are opposite? I'm sorry if I was just stupid on this one. I need to get to bed; haven't slept in almost 40 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by fhpchris
    Kinda sad, my RD600 cannot even pass 32m @ 430 fsb...

    nd 13.4sec 1m @ 4005 mhz
    IMHO the problem with the mobo aside from performance vs 975 chipsets is the voltages needed to be boosted too much for extra speed at 1T and no one has really said what are going to be reasonable long term values

    I would like to run 1T at my overclock but I need all my mobo voltages raised, I can run it but not sure if I will have a mobo degrade..I do not think they are extreme values..I keep my NB at 1.42v in bios....

    Hearing 450 fsb is not going to be possible at 1.5v for everyone or less is absurd..they had all this time and I feel misled by performance...

    If I thought I could sell for a reasonable price I would dump it in a heart beat...I should have listened to Travis aka AngryGanes..DFI layed an egg

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