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    Smile ABIT AW9D-MAX Insulation

    Here I'll upload pictures and details of how to insulate a mobo....
    The mobo I'll insulate for now is ABIT AW9D-MAX and the photos/details will be needed as a small insulation guide for new guys who want to come into subzero world...


    Starting I have unsoldered ALL capacitors and chokes(coils) from the mobo which are around the socket 775 so as to make more "space" for insulation.........
    Of course don't do that cuz it's a bit difficult......
    In case that some one is interested about this as well, simply you NEED HIGH soldering temperature (over 450*C) so as to unsolder them....


    Here's a shot of the socket 775 and the space we now have around it....



    OK.....You'll say: "Now that we have unsoldered the chokes and the capacitors, dosn't mobo needs them so as to work?"
    Yes we need them and we re-solder them back......BUT......in the back of our mobo.......




    ....by doing this we have space for PROPER insulation around our socket in case of subzero temps......


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    Very cool, I have been wanting to do this on a few boards.

    Looking forward to how it goes, thanks George.
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    Nice, but same situation with insulation @ backside of mobo, so what is the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani
    Nice, but same situation with insulation @ backside of mobo, so what is the point?
    Not really he can carve into the insulation material and it´s a lot easier to insulate the background , and the socket area .
    But for that we need to be super hipro5 , for these kind of transformation :P

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    Excellent HIPRO5

    you are really are a modding guru..

    will wait for more of your guides..
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    This is why your so hardcore man....if the is in your way, you just move it to the backside of the mobo . Gotta try this...

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    You know what I'm wondering hipro, why don't you just build your own motherboards

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    Thanks guys.....

    @ Dani ....I do so for two reasons: a.Easier and flat insulation in the front with more room and thicker "walls" of insulation and b.inovation...

    Quote Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
    This is why your so hardcore man....if the is in your way, you just move it to the backside of the mobo . Gotta try this...
    Always Vince....always.....

    Quote Originally Posted by G H Z
    You know what I'm wondering hipro, why don't you just build your own motherboards
    Who knows....!.....Maybe sometime I will......
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    Let's continue......

    First off, we "tap" (close) all the holes of the mobo with a soft material (like gum) which actually is for insulation and it was in the package with a Prometia cooling unit ..... Please help me whoever knows how it's called....I think it's called seal string....



    Closer look.....




    Then we go and get a "Plastic Spray" which can handle -70*C so as to be sure that it won't "break" at low temps....I use this one.....






    Afterwards we spray the whole backside of the mobo......We do so if we do not want/like corrosion to our mobo......




    When it "turns" into plastic (from liquid) we turn the mobo to the other side (front) and we start insulating all parts/components of it BUT NOT by spraying them cuz we will encode slot contacting problems if we do so....
    We get a small piece of cotton which we spray it all the time and place it on every component......Like the photos below....









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    When we have finished insulating the mobo with plastic spray, we untap it's holes like the photo.....




    IF we have a thermal resistor, we place it on the back of the CPU.....This resistor produses heat so as our socket to be dry.....I had this resistor from a Prometia cooling system.....




    Then we start to insulate the whole mobo by sticking insulating tape on it......



    We do this 2 times and crossed each tape to other.......Though I haven't finished yet the back side so I'll continue this tomorrow.....

    EDIT:.....back side completed.....

    We now put all screws we want into the holes like the photo below:




    .....and we continue our back side insulation.....




    .....and finally we get this view....

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    Let's insulate now the front side of the mobo and around the CPU socket......
    First stage of insulation





    ...second stage......




    ........third stage......

    IF you observe the insulation, you'll see that it is sticked "crossed".....This is because we don't want the air to come in/goes out from the little "holes" of cuttings .....If we have air in/out, we have WATER as well......





    .....fourth stage and we did something different this time......We did a "circle" so as our pot fit's exactly into the insulation without "bothering" it....




    ....fifth stage and we start making the circle wider and wider on each step.....






    Our final result is below.....








    .....and finaly testing it......








    IF we want to insulate the WHOLE mobo with plastic spray we do as above (in case we are going to play with CrossFire/SLI) OR only around the CPU's socket.......

    That's for now.....To be CONTINUED.....


    EDIT: Our final resault is the below picture.....Ready to bench with DI/LN2 or even a single stage for 24/7.....

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    Ok, that's just ing amaizing, so great
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    I did mine similar to yours hipro only I did not move any caps I used nail polish on all exposed components front & back of board, especially around the socket base. Two layered socket insulation with top layer fitting the mousepot circumference tightly and sealing caps. Only used with DI so far, might need to do something more drastic for LN2.

    BTW, whats the blue wire doing on the back of your board




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    Quote Originally Posted by G H Z
    BTW, whats the blue wire doing on the back of your board
    It's for geting real VMCH.....No Vdroop inside the mobo anymore.......
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    I see some tantalum capacitors there George, you using them to stabilise the northbridge supply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipro5
    It's for geting real VMCH.....No Vdroop inside the mobo anymore.......

    rely nice work Hipro!!

    Did you find any Vcore mod too the Abit board yet?
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    Daaaayumn
    Waiting to see the results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo
    I see some tantalum capacitors there George, you using them to stabilise the northbridge supply?
    Yes....and the Vfsb a bit.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Overklokk
    rely nice work Hipro!!

    Did you find any Vcore mod too the Abit board yet?
    I see you don't "search"...

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=118248

    Quote Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
    Daaaayumn
    Waiting to see the results
    I do too....
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    Well hipro this is why u are a legend

    And u sure are my idol!
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    That's crazy insulation man Nice!

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    at last hipro5, time to remember the good old cold nights.
    I have plenty of time this week
    if this is your first night in xtremesystems,
    you have to overclock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PallMall
    Hipro nice job on the insulation, but i have a question for you

    Aren't there any components on the board who wouldn't disagree with the extreem cold? Or is this just a matter for insulating against water...
    Just a question

    Thanks M8.....

    Look......I haven't encoded cold problems on the components IF the mobo uses good ones....The max temp I've seen with LN2 cooling on mobo's PCB, was -17*C.....So I think they can handle that.....PLUS that now we are not playing at -196*C any more...Just up to -130 to -140*C....

    Quote Originally Posted by Waus-mod
    Well hipro this is why u are a legend

    And u sure are my idol!
    Thank you for your kind words Wouter ....

    Quote Originally Posted by esdee
    at last hipro5, time to remember the good old cold nights.
    I have plenty of time this week
    Yes come here and fix the cascade of yours....

    BTW....A little birdie told me that we'll have 2 x GPU containers for the VGA's too....

    Quote Originally Posted by aasmaukr
    That's crazy insulation man Nice!
    Like me....
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    EDITING the posts above and finished the insulation.....Ready for benching and having a good time cuz that's all it counts.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hipro5
    Thanks M8.....
    BTW....A little birdie told me that we'll have 2 x GPU containers for the VGA's too....
    got it

    the second cascade only needs insulation on the flex and an auxiliary fan for the 1st stage condenser since it don't have time to move it over gorillakos place and replace the burned fan.

    just black mail bill to go fill the LN2 dewar


    hey George, those M4 screws look AWFULLY FAMILIAR
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    Quote Originally Posted by esdee
    hey George, those M4 screws look AWFULLY FAMILIAR
    Yes.....they are MINE......NOW.....
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