Who makes containers?

[N3RO]

Hi ppl!

I'm interested to buy a (solid) container for LN2.

Who makes containers here?

Prices?

Regards

[Mr. Popo]

Just 81 posts away from "For sale" section.

[N3RO]

Just 81 posts away from "For sale" section.

Do spam to have access to "For sale" section? No tks :P

I only want to know who makes containers

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[M.Beier]

Depends, how much are you willing to spend? (150$ entry level on solid or somethin' 600$ is about tops)
And do you want cobber or aluminium?

- Also, brazed is ALOT cheaper..

[N3RO]

Depends, how much are you willing to spend? (150$ entry level on solid or somethin' 600$ is about tops)
And do you want cobber or aluminium?

- Also, brazed is ALOT cheaper..

100-150€ i think

Otternase says 90€ in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=75480

[M.Beier]

Material?
I've heard cobberprice is HIGH atm..
But try to PM... Overklokk, Minusgrader, Kingpin (bad odds though), CAL930(not very realistic neither) - or gocchin askin' for a "mousepot"

[The Weedman]

Ive never seen a cobber pot before, can someone please tell me what that is

[M.Beier]

Ive never seen a cobber pot before, can someone please tell me what that is

Look at section and make a wild guess

[Mr. Popo]

I think cobber = copper.

[The Weedman]

lol yes thats what i was getting at, sorry for the thread crap.

[M.Beier]

I'll just stick with Cu and Al in the future then :P

[N3RO]

I'm only interested on a container to do some experiences.. Al or Cu it's equal..

at moment i've 100€ for this

[M.Beier]

Send minusgrader a PM, he'll work something out for ya

[N3RO]

Send minusgrader a PM, he'll work something out for ya

Tks

I did it

regards

[drcooling.cl]

I make tubes, but only 2 pieces. Solid units are expensives, heavys and little efficient

i bet you prove how a pipe of one piece vs one of mines made of two pieces could cool the temperature with two litres of n2l over a overclocked processor. bet you see which is better and faster Cooler and which one coul get the minor equilibrium temperature

[Mr. Popo]

I make tubes, but only 2 pieces. Solid units are expensives, heavys and little efficient

i bet you prove how a pipe of one piece vs one of mines made of two pieces could cool the temperature with two litres of n2l over a overclocked processor. bet you see which is better and faster Cooler and which one coul get the minor equilibrium temperature

Fact No.1 : Solid oWnZ.
Fact No.2 : Brazed oWneD.

[6iE.CR]

are you 100% sure of what are you saying?

have you ever used a solid ot against a two-pieces?

i do, and i can tell you honestly that the "solid pwnz brazed" is a very bad myth. Of course i'm talking about a good two pices pot, like the one dr. cooling made for me.

How many time you need to reach a temp cooler than -150 just starting, with the warm pot?

Which is the most cold temp that you reach with your solid?

My two pieces do -189 measured at base. That is a fact. And it does in 10 minutes at most. For an x6800 i use a plastic slice to avoid getting colder than -130, 6800's actual coldbug temp.

We are just starting with ocing with ln2, so i haven't any impressssssive results, just benching at 4800; but at this time i'm very very sure that the pot i have is far better than a solid one.

Who's the one creating this kind of myths like "solid is better than two pieces". Bad idea, if you said "Solid is better than a bad two pieces" i believe you.

Regards.

[drcooling.cl]

Fact No.1 : Solid oWnZ.
Fact No.2 : Brazed oWneD.

This is not a technical argument.

[M.Beier]

Solid is best if its well done, but, is it worth the extra money, personally I dont think so!
I got brazed GPU + CPU tube.. GPU by piotress and CPU by minusgrader.
Personally, I dont care if base is -185 or -190 when using LN2 - I just wanna Cu-pot

[6iE.CR]

Solid is best if its well done, but, is it worth the extra money, personally I dont think so!
I got brazed GPU + CPU tube.. GPU by piotress and CPU by minusgrader.
Personally, I dont care if base is -185 or -190 when using LN2 - I just wanna Cu-pot

but have you any technical reason for besting the solid over the two pieces pot? Why solid is "better"?

IMHO, a solid pot doesn't have a decent heat exchanger; the two pieced do.

What is better in air cooling? a plain metal slice in contact with ihs? or a complex design of fins maximizing the surface area in contact with the ihs?

i think that solid is a brute method; just a pot with plain bottom. The two pieces heat exchanger is far better getting the heat out of the processor, with an surface faaaar greater.

Regards.

Anyone have a technical and irrefutable reason for saying "solid is best"? ( no flame here, just tryin' to know why all ppl here got that opinion. Just coz it's a "fact", like popo's said? :o)

[afireinside]

I make tubes, but only 2 pieces. Solid units are expensives, heavys and little efficient

i bet you prove how a pipe of one piece vs one of mines made of two pieces could cool the temperature with two litres of n2l over a overclocked processor. bet you see which is better and faster Cooler and which one coul get the minor equilibrium temperature

Sold units are not efficient? Please explain. Jason, Kingpin, all of team japan, and many other top benchers use solid units. If you told them a brazed tube would be better, they would all laugh in your face.

[eshbach]

Sold units are not efficient? Please explain. Jason, Kingpin, all of team japan, and many other top benchers use solid units. If you told them a brazed tube would be better, they would all laugh in your face.

i think he means "cost effective".

all things being equal (like surface area and mass and such), a solid container will have slightly better capacity than a brazed container.

is a well-made brazed container going to suck just because it's not solid? no.

part of the reason solid units are better is because there is uniform thermal resistiviy throughout, whereas the filling material used in a brazed pot will have a different thermal resistance than the copper. it also may not form as strong a molecular bond as the solid copper had originally, which would also inhibit heat transfer from the base up the sides of the pipe.

[M.Beier]

but have you any technical reason for besting the solid over the two pieces pot? Why solid is "better"?

IMHO, a solid pot doesn't have a decent heat exchanger; the two pieced do.

What is better in air cooling? a plain metal slice in contact with ihs? or a complex design of fins maximizing the surface area in contact with the ihs?

i think that solid is a brute method; just a pot with plain bottom. The two pieces heat exchanger is far better getting the heat out of the processor, with an surface faaaar greater.

Regards.

Anyone have a technical and irrefutable reason for saying "solid is best"? ( no flame here, just tryin' to know why all ppl here got that opinion. Just coz it's a "fact", like popo's said? :o)

I didnt say so neither, I said the difference is too small for me to buy solid at 4 times higher price when using LN2..

[QUOTE=afireinsideSold units are not efficient? Please explain. Jason, Kingpin, all of team japan, and many other top benchers use solid units. If you told them a brazed tube would be better, they would all laugh in your face.[/QUOTE]
Well actually not all members of team japan does.. OMEGA3 posted pictures of his brazed tube. - It was square shaped.
Also I belive macci, samspa, stilt etc. use brazed.. Just as well as chilly1 makes brazeed..

Sure solid is better, but with LN2, it aint worth the difference, the tubes are ALOT more expensive..
Also, I belive a brazed Cu-pot will beat a solid alu tube with LN2...

[corvus_corax]

i think that solid is a brute method; just a pot with plain bottom. The two pieces heat exchanger is far better getting the heat out of the processor, with an surface faaaar greater.

Regards.

...plain bottom?? I think you've seen very few designs in solid containers, maybe just the plain ones. There are many complex desings that actually you even need to make your own tools for make those designs. I know about that, because i have made some containers, all solids, and no plain bottom of course, but you ask to Kingpin, MM, ilkkahy, Dani or other guys with solid containers.

A "good" brazed pot could be as good as "good" solid pot, IMO.

[LukeXE]

I can do for you brazed container, copper in poland isn`t too expensive, so I think for ~75E we can do it.