*avoid* gskill 2GBZX with DS3

[GSKILL TECH]

no matter what
if gigabyte not going to fix it, we can also exchange to 2GBPK for 2GBZX and 2GBNR for 2GBNS. however, it is just weird to me that seting CL4 will auto change to CL3 that is weird

[Richard Dower]

So if i hand in my unopened 2GBZX you give me a 2GBPK kit?
Sweet...

[Richard Dower]

Is there anyway to test the DQ6 board using either F2 or the F3a beta?

[Gun_Strife]

richard y do u make 2 posts when u can just do one

so would this be a problem for any ram on this board that wont boot at cl3 because it sets that automatically, or does it only do that for some gskill ram

[Richard Dower]

Um, another question popped into my head after the first one, sorry.

[Chris583]

Does this Gskill work fine in the DS3? Im thinking of getting it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231051

I want to get the best working ram for under 200$ and these seem to be good, but I'm not sure whether they work in the DS3 flawlessly at boot.

[dinos22]

Poor Lestat.. Asus bones him, now he cant get his gigabyte to boot with some kickass ram. LOL. Im sure G.Skill will take care of it. Its not like you were going to throw down some sensational benches or anything... I like that Lestat is a beta tester on this platform! Hooray for Lestat!

heheheheh

[pcdoc1]

heheheheh

[pcdoc1]

The G.Skill NS ram would not boot with the ds3 or the asus p5b! More proof G.skill sucks

No, it's more proof that everyone is dealing with a new chipset... A little research before you purchased might have been a reasonable approach...

[xpsentity]

Edit: I see this is a more isolated issue with 965 / DS3. Sorry.

Just as an FYI to counter some of this..

My ZX kit is fine at 1.8, 1.9, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3.

SPD sets it correctly, manually at 4,4,4,12 it's also fine.

Though, this is on 975 chipset, so, maybe it's a 965 issue. (P5W DH)

I have had some strangeness with it and Orthos/SP/Prime, but I seem to have sorted it last night and have had no problems since.

Of course, if the G.Skill guy is having problems, there is obviously something wacky.

[GSKILL TECH]

sup guys.... that is right, i am working about 12hr a day and no weekend life

ok i try F2-6400PHU2-2GBNS, F2-6400PHU2-2GBZX
those are show haveing problem with 965 chipset only.
there is no problem with 975 and 945 (i only have those mobos)

however, 965 due to the design of mobo, those two kits are not working properly.
i recommend buying F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK amd F2-6400PHU2-2GBNR.
those kit using 1.9v are good on 965 chipset, i am testing it right now and i will post my result tomorrow.
really sorry about the tourble.

[Chris583]

Thanks I would definitely buy Gskill if I didn't have to worry about which RAM would work in the DS3 etc.

I hope I can get a 2GB kit soon, perhaps from Gskill if there is a good working one for the DS3. hmm

[GSKILL TECH]

Thanks I would definitely buy Gskill if I didn't have to worry about which RAM would work in the DS3 etc.

I hope I can get a 2GB kit soon, perhaps from Gskill if there is a good working one for the DS3. hmm

right now i am testing F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK on Asus P5B-D tonight
and tomorrow i will test it on Gigiabyte DS3 mobo
However there is a problem, with 2:3 divider at DDR2 800
no matter i manually set at CL4 in bios, it just boot with CL3....
that is bad, bad and bad!!

[xpsentity]

G.Skill Guy: You rock.

We all appreciate the testing and honesty of the responses from you guys.

Seriously top notch, you don't see this kind of thing from most manufacturers / vendors.

[i found nemo]

[flame bait] intel, when are they gunna stop screwin' up [/ flame bait]

but seriously, g.skill is a very good company, it's just timing-voltage issue. every generation of cpu's have a draw-back. even new generation of mobo/chipset have limitation. tha's what happens, tha's why overclocking/tweaking is a skill, not a given.

[delas52]

I got the ds3 and the cheap gskill 2gbns ddr2 800. Do you think I'll be ok?

EDIT: I see gskill is testing this out. I will wait for there results and hope I'm not screwed.

[GSKILL TECH]

I got the ds3 and the cheap gskill 2gbns ddr2 800. Do you think I'll be ok?

no it is not ok.....

[delas52]

Yea I just saw there is an issue there. Is there anyway I will be able to get these two to work together?

[mearle73]

This wont work either Patriot PC7200 2x1GB DDS2 900

[kenofstephen]

ok well got my gskill 2gb kit of ZX today and just like people have reported it doesnt boot.

reason ?

1) the DS3 auto defualts the ram to 1.9v <-- dum since it limits you to cheap low voltage ram.
2) the gskill requires a minimum of 2.0v to boot properly. <-- the ram should be telling the board this and its not
3) after testing i am finding the DS3 auto boots the drma speed at 400mhz, even at 400mhz the ZX ram STILL requires 2.1v to boot.
and at 800mhz it requires 2.2v or higher.
4) for ME 800mhz 4-4-4-12 even at 2.2v will not boot. i have to set it to auto. but at auto its 4-4-4-12. this seems to be an issue with the motherboard.
5) If at anytime your system fails an overclock and does not auto reset its FSB to defaults... your s.o.l. you have reset the bios with the cmos jumper. This will force the vdimm back down to 1.9v and guess what that means ? you have to pull out the gskill and put in an old set that will boot. change the
vdimm to 2.2v. reboot power down change the ram back . then power on and hope it works.
6) this ram get warm and quickly too.
you NEED active cooling on this ram to make it run properly.


if you ahve the DS3 i would avoid this ram your system wont even boot unless you have some low voltage backup ram.

im pretty disappointed in all this. i expected more from gskill.

overclocking isnt that great either. not considering its the HZ's little brother.

oh too bad, it's stupid isn't it?

btw, you should blame G.Skill rather than Gigabyte.

who would expect 1.9v unbootable?

[delas52]

Yo GS TEch. This guy was having the same problem with the ds3 and some ocz ram. Look what he did to boot into the bios an raise the Ram voltage:

I was able to get into BIOS after disconnecting everything except the video card and processor (even the front USB ports, haha), resetting CMOS and using a PS2 keyboard. Sure enough +.2 volts and I'm stably formatting my hard drive wit both dimms installed running dual-channel 800 MHz (2x1 GB).

You think this can be done for us as well, because what he did really was independant of the ram he had, since it wasn't in the mobo when he gt into the BIOS?

[Richard Dower]

G.SKILL tech...so would it be possible to exchange a 2GB ZX kit for a 2GB NR kit?

I know the NR is cheaper, but i don't care about that...i just want a working PC!

[realsmasher]

You think this can be done for us as well, because what he did really was independant of the ram he had, since it wasn't in the mobo when he gt into the BIOS?

the ram he uses is ocz 800mhz gold, so rated at 2.0V and starting with cl5.

the gskill on the other hand is starting with cl3 instead of cl4 AND with too low voltage.

so thats a pretty big difference.

also, he had luck, as he wrote he had try for HOURS to get even in bios. I don't think many people would like to gamble with they ram and mobo combination, do they ?

[delas52]

I guess I'll trade my ns for nr then through gskill. How quick are they over there at gskill?

But still man, it isn't much of a gamble if you just do what he did and change the voltage then boot up again with everything attached to the mobo and the highered voltage.

[pcdoc1]

This still looks like a MB issue to me... Corsair 6400 C4 also starts @ C3 with the F3 and F4a bios..