TCCD 2-2-2-5 @ 255mhz @ 3.3v

[SHiRaKaWa]

"Curious to see how high the memory would go with more extreme voltages, I set the memory voltage to 3.3V... With the memory running at 50+ degrees Celsius, we were able to hit 255 MHz with memory timings of 2-2-2-5!"

This quotation is taken from the PCSTATS Mushkin PC3200 LII V2 Memory Review found in the link below.
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1668&page=2

Correct me if I'm wrong, I know that TCCD chips don't like high voltages. Infact, they become instable.

So if good cooling is applied on the TCCD's, it will run as high as some bh-5/6 with tight timings (2-2-2-5 stable) on high voltages.

[cetoole]

That is crazy, I would like to see confirmation of this.

[Nanobot]

The reviewer probably got sent the older Mushkin Level II BH-5 memory packaged in the new V2 version heatspreader.

Did Mushkin do this on purpose nooo... of course not

I have yet to see anyone get better oc out of the samsung TCCD at 3.0+v,can anyone confirm this ?

[cetoole]

That revision 2 sticker looks like they just slapped it on, probably revision 1.

[Shade00]

That's how Mushkin stickers always look.

I'm skeptical of the results as well, but I doubt that those are actually BH-5 sticks.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

well i know the guy who did that review from local forums and he is defiently a seasoned reviewer. i dont think for a second he would post false results. most likely a error. but for some reason i cant view the site anymore. maybe ill shoot him a email.

[SHiRaKaWa]

The reviewer probably got sent the older Mushkin Level II BH-5 memory packaged in the new V2 version heatspreader.

Did Mushkin do this on purpose nooo... of course not

I have yet to see anyone get better oc out of the samsung TCCD at 3.0+v,can anyone confirm this ?

It's not just the mushkins. They also did that with GeIL's Ultra-X PC3200 @ 257fsb @ 3.4. So it's very unlikley that they are mislabled. link below:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1653&page=2

[eshbach]

well here's a stick of the old stuff:



and here's the new stuff:



i don't know if that helps at all...

edit:

here's another image of the V2



so it looks likes pictures w/o heatspreaders would be needed.

[SHiRaKaWa]

Please. Can anybody with a TCCD and a Vdimm-mod/ddrbooster try it?
It's a serious matter.

[eshbach]

Please. Can anybody with a TCCD and a Vdimm-mod/ddrbooster try it?
It's a serious matter.

i cranked 3.2v through mine and nothing changed.

[Nimrod0031]

I would try this if my psu wasn't already being so stressed. Going to have to wait untill my new one gets here.

[TEDY]

TCCD does NOT like voltages above 3v erm it don't change a thing

[Crankster]

True, causes instability though...

[crotale]

It would be interesting to see how they perform with 2.5-7-3-3
BH5 won't clock any higher, but I guess TCCD would.

[Ubermann]

I have tried mine an 3.5 volt took them to 232 Superpistable at 2-2-2-5
Impossible to go higher with mine.
2.9 volt makes them max out ~220
So..i dont know =)

[SHiRaKaWa]

I have tried mine an 3.5 volt took them to 232 Superpistable at 2-2-2-5
Impossible to go higher with mine.
2.9 volt makes them max out ~220
So..i dont know =)

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
So it does like high voltages

[Kanavit]

where can i get the ozC DDR memory booster?

[Lithan]

http://www.svc.com/ocz-pack.html



http://www.svc.com/oczddrvboost.html

[bh2k]

where can i get the ozC DDR memory booster?

Gonna run 3.6 through your mem

[Colin]

Hello XS, it's been a long time.

Anyway this is Colin from PCStats, I hope to clear up a few things. Haha perhaps I have some special memory in any case the memory works pretty well on my modded IC7-MAX3 mobo.

If there are some more tests you'd like me to run to verify I don't mind, just e-mail them to me at colin.sun@pcstats.com but make sure you fill your subject line well, I get over 1k spam e-mails a day.

Damn CPU-Z no longer tells you the DIMM's but here are a few screen shots @ 255 MHz with 2-2-2-5 timings at 3.2V.





Unlike other manufacturers, Mushkin does not place a voltage limiter on their memory, running 3V+ through other manufacturers using the same DRAM is useless since the DRAM doesn't get these volts.

I haven't been in the enthusiast game for the last year but those who know me know that I'm 100% legit. Hehe perhaps I should start coming back to XS on a more regular basis, anyway if there's something else you'd like me to try by all means e-mail me. Running Prime95 right now and will post tomorrow if necessary.

Colin

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

nice to see you here colin. thats very nice. those sticks you got are pretty much bh-5 killers. wonder what they could do if you used the same volts and loosened the timmings.

[Colin]

Hey there WSP.

Honestly I've lost my taste for speed, playing more with my car. Sorry guys I just noticed the tests I ran above are with timings of 2-2-2-6. Pretty much the same thing but thought I should point that out.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

Hey there WSP.

Honestly I've lost my taste for speed, playing more with my car. Sorry guys I just noticed the tests I ran above are with timings of 2-2-2-6. Pretty much the same thing but thought I should point that out.

so you just like a different kind of speed now eh? wish i had a car like yours to work on.

seems tccd does like volts.

[Jasonxxx]

Can you bench the V2 at 255mhz 2,2,2,6 1t and then bench them @ 2.5,?,?,? 1t at say 280mhz?

I'm just wondering if the Mushkin V2 will surpass the Gskill or OCZ rev.2 plat tccd ram(brainpower pcb), because of the V2's capability of using more voltage?

[STEvil]

Hello XS, it's been a long time.

Anyway this is Colin from PCStats, I hope to clear up a few things. Haha perhaps I have some special memory in any case the memory works pretty well on my modded IC7-MAX3 mobo.

If there are some more tests you'd like me to run to verify I don't mind, just e-mail them to me at colin.sun@pcstats.com but make sure you fill your subject line well, I get over 1k spam e-mails a day.

Damn CPU-Z no longer tells you the DIMM's but here are a few screen shots @ 255 MHz with 2-2-2-5 timings at 3.2V.

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Unlike other manufacturers, Mushkin does not place a voltage limiter on their memory, running 3V+ through other manufacturers using the same DRAM is useless since the DRAM doesn't get these volts.

I haven't been in the enthusiast game for the last year but those who know me know that I'm 100% legit. Hehe perhaps I should start coming back to XS on a more regular basis, anyway if there's something else you'd like me to try by all means e-mail me. Running Prime95 right now and will post tomorrow if necessary.

Colin

Dont you think the extra voltage getting stopped somewhere before being "allowed" to enter the ram would generate an excessive amount of heat, Colin? Ram, having a high current nature, would generate the heat excessively fast, too..

I'm going to poke around some, but to the best of my knowledge putting "voltage" limiters on ram would be purely suicidal on part of the ram manufacturers.

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