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    2000MHz CL8 for a budget ram - CL7 possibly??!

    I just tested my friend's G.SKILL NQ - he said it'd never been stabilized above its own spec, 1600 CL9. With taking his word forward, I tried 1800MHz with very loose ram timings.

    Before showing the result, testbed's info is as follows:



    He uses 4 dimms of G.SKILL NQ so the entire memory capacity is 8GB.

    Here's OC trials & error (not "errors" - because there's literally only a single error.)

    1800MHz 11-11-11-30 2T @ 1.65V


    Since my friend said he'd never reached above 1600MHz, I intentionally set loose ram timings: 9-9-9 (default) to 11-11-11. Note that the command rate is 2T at default, and I didn't touch it then because at the moment, I was not sure whether this ram is stable at 1800MHz clock speed.

    As you see, 1800MHz CL11 is probably too little for this ram. No error occured. So I tried a bit higher frequency - 1900MHz - at lower ram CL value.

    1900MHz 9-11-11-27 2T @ 1.65V


    1900MHz 9-11-11 was just fine. With ram timing settings unchanged, I added +100MHz.

    2000MHz 9-11-11-27 2T @ 1.65V - failed


    Now we see the first (and the last in this post ) failure - an error was occured at 2000MHz 9-11-11. I thought that tRCD is the problem, so I loosened it to 12. (or maybe I could choose to raise voltage, but I'd not chose to.)

    2000MHz 9-12-11-27 2T @ 1.65V


    Got the point! tRCD 11 was too much for 2000MHz, 12 just appropriate.
    Then I started to deal with the others - tRP, tRFC, Command Rate.
    Here's final ram timing setting for 2000MHz:

    2000MHz 9-12-9-27 1T @ 1.65V


    Though I knew that tRP hardly affects performance, I tightened it from 12 to 9 just for my loving at symmetry (9-12-9 seems a bit more "beautiful" than 9-12-11 ). And I also tightened tRFC from 160 to 110, and command rate from 2T to 1T.

    //

    After the test is up, I just tried (without anticipation) 2000MHz CL8 (8-12-8) and succeeded to boot but it's unstable. I think if I gain more voltage, 2000MHz CL8 for a budget ram is possible probably.



    //

    + Result Added:
    2000MHz 8-12-8-24 @ 1.75V stable!



    ...and here's another discount on CL (2000MHz CL7 - not yet tested)




    Thanks for reading
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    cas 7 @ 2000 pretty good mate! mind linking which kit u used?? 8gb quite impressive also!

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny87au View Post
    cas 7 @ 2000 pretty good mate! mind linking which kit u used?? 8gb quite impressive also!
    Never mind. The product info is: http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=88
    Two of this dual-kit above are used: 4 dimms total.
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    cheap RAM strikes again! Love seeing these cheap kits post great frequencies
    this is pretty good, but that ECO kit can do some serious clocking as well, so it may be a better option for overclocking.

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    seen seen u post i went about seen what my ram could get to

    http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...e_dual_channel

    1333MHz DDR3
    CL 9-9-9-20(CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)
    Available in 4GB optimized kits
    Unbuffered
    Gold Layered Z3 XTC Heatspreader
    Qualified on Intel P55 Chipsets and Core i3, i5, i7 CPUs
    Qualified on AMD 7 Series and 8 Series Chipsets, X4/X6 CPUs
    Lifetime Warranty
    1.65 Volts
    240 Pin DIMM

    as of right now im running on just about the settings u put
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGLee View Post
    Never mind. The product info is: http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=88
    Two of this dual-kit above are used: 4 dimms total.
    Thanks for reading
    so 4x2gb yeah?

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    just set ram to 10-12-10-27-110-t1 ran linx fine ran ibt fine just running memtest now thanks for the work u done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wumpus View Post
    cheap RAM strikes again! Love seeing these cheap kits post great frequencies
    this is pretty good, but that ECO kit can do some serious clocking as well, so it may be a better option for overclocking.
    Oh I just saw ECO OC post in Xtreme Bandwidth page! How nice

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny87au View Post
    so 4x2gb yeah?
    Yup

    Quote Originally Posted by death View Post
    just set ram to 10-12-10-27-110-t1 ran linx fine ran ibt fine just running memtest now thanks for the work u done
    You're welcome Hope your memory can pass memtest
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    cant push much more tbh other then trying for tighter timeings since for some reson i cant get above 200 bclk on my msi gd80 strange thing is even at 201 it wont pass linx wish is a right pain lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by death View Post
    cant push much more tbh other then trying for tighter timeings since for some reson i cant get above 200 bclk on my msi gd80 strange thing is even at 201 it wont pass linx wish is a right pain lol
    Have you tried with lower QPI / Uncore frequency? (or more QPI / Uncore volt)
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    yes tried ever thing lowerd all settings even tried with 10 multi and 210 bclk no go
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