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    bloodrage, raid0, window 7??

    has anyone has trouble installing win7 on raid 0? it doesn't seem the win7 detect any raid array, on top of that, everytime i install intel matrix storage manager(raid driver) my pc won't boot up anymore.

    i install the win7 via AHCI mode. since it doesn't detect raid, i had to install on a single drive, but it doesn't like the raid driver for some reason.

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    I installed W7 the other day on two SSD's in RAID 0 and did not have to install any drivers, W7 saw them as one drive. I did use RAID mode and not ACHI though, so try that. I also did not have to install any drivers past that, W7 did everything automatically.
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    i was trying using SATA mode = raid , but it couldn't detect the CD driver, it keep saying insert disk etc. so i had to use AHCI in order to boot into Win7 CD pro upgrade. maybe i need reset the bio? i have an old version of bio G13. also i'm creating 2 raid 0 volume on the disk.

    so for win7 i don't need install chipset&system driver? what about graphic and sound?

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    connect the sata cd drive to another sata port, ideally a sas port, that should work

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    ok ill try that today, is there any bio setting i should aware of that might cause the cd not been able to boot in raid mode?

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    I have definitely noticed some quirkiness when creating RAID drives on the Intel controller AND using the JMicron controller.

    BIOS = P09

    If you create an Intel RAID array and use eSATA or the legacy IDE port, you MUST configure the JMicron as RAID + IDE. Failure to do so will cause very strange issues, including lock ups/hangs. At this point you must reset the BIOS and/or load your good BIOS settings from OC gear.
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    Yeah, I should have mentioned that I was using P06 (I find it the most stable). Also, I disable the Jmicron and SAS controllers and have my HD's plugged into ports 0 and 1. I have a USB DVD drive, so it isn't plugged into the onboard SATA connector, but I would try it at port 2 and see if that works for you.
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    i think i put in raid + IDE mode. never had issue when install vista. the only thing i found strange is it doesn't detect cd rom when in RAID mode. ill try connect to SAS plug later on see what happen

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    hey i have install Win 7 on my Raid-0 SSD im wondering if i can use the SAS port as RAID-0 for my SSD ? reason is i have 5 Hd's to hook up & i think im gona run out SATA ports
    anyones who can let me know if this works SSD-Raid-0 on SAS thx

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    Why wouldn't it work? The SAS ports support SATA and RAID, so it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utnorris View Post
    Why wouldn't it work? The SAS ports support SATA and RAID, so it should.
    thx i will give a try

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    Quote Originally Posted by chawks2 View Post
    I have definitely noticed some quirkiness when creating RAID drives on the Intel controller AND using the JMicron controller.

    BIOS = P09

    If you create an Intel RAID array and use eSATA or the legacy IDE port, you MUST configure the JMicron as RAID + IDE. Failure to do so will cause very strange issues, including lock ups/hangs. At this point you must reset the BIOS and/or load your good BIOS settings from OC gear.
    hmmm thats interesting, so even if you dont run IDE raid or Esata raid you have to set it to raid+IDE if you use ICH10 raid? hmmmm

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    for some reason when i connect my cd-rom to SAS port, the bio doesn't recognize it(maybe because G13 bio?). Also the cd-rom only boot up when I set the sata mode = AHCI, otherwise it won't boot. This is true for any sata port. but i did finaly get raid setup with win7, i just have to boot the CD in AHCI mode, then boot in RAID mode when win7 is installed on the harddrive.

    Also i notice the bloodrage doesn't came with Crossfire bridge(it does support crossfire right)? anyone know where can i get one that has the correct space etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProStock View Post
    hey i have install Win 7 on my Raid-0 SSD im wondering if i can use the SAS port as RAID-0 for my SSD ? reason is i have 5 Hd's to hook up & i think im gona run out SATA ports
    anyones who can let me know if this works SSD-Raid-0 on SAS thx
    I had a similar problem and I decided to move my two X-25 G2 SSD(s) to ICH10R RAID and move two of my fastest HD(s) to SAS RAID.

    I read around and people seem to be getting the best SSD RAID-0 results from ICH10R, even better than hardware RAID (and thus probably the SAS controller as well). The main advantage was latency. The big advantage of SSD(s) during reads is that they have essentially zero latency, and ICH10R does not significantly add to that latency, while hardware RAID does. SAS doesn't have sophisticated, onboard caching to alleviate this either, like some of the good RAID cards.

    I/O on ICH10R is good too, I get peak rates of over 450MB/sec on my ICH10R Intel X-25 G2 array.

    Still, it would be interesting to see how the SAS controller handles a SSD array. Please let us know your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s002wjh View Post
    for some reason when i connect my cd-rom to SAS port, the bio doesn't recognize it(maybe because G13 bio?). Also the cd-rom only boot up when I set the sata mode = AHCI, otherwise it won't boot. This is true for any sata port. but i did finaly get raid setup with win7, i just have to boot the CD in AHCI mode, then boot in RAID mode when win7 is installed on the harddrive.

    Also i notice the bloodrage doesn't came with Crossfire bridge(it does support crossfire right)? anyone know where can i get one that has the correct space etc?
    I had to move my DVD drive to SAS Port 0 when ICH10R was in RAID mode to have the option to boot from DVD (after also changing to boot sequence in BIOS).

    When I boot into Win7 off my ICH10R RAID 0 array, I can't access the contents of any SAS drive until AFTER I boot into Win7. I think this might be a general limitation of the SAS controller.

    I not sure where you can get a Crossfire bridge with the correct span, but the 4870 I bought about a year ago and the 4890 I recently bought both included Crossfire bridges that easily fit, so the the correct size is definately out there. When I get home, I'll measure it and post the info.
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    Ive never had any trouble using an SATA DVD drive with RAID running on my 2 HDD's on ICH10r, just make sure SATA Mode in the Bios is set to RAID, I disabled the Jmicron controller as this is only for IDE devices, so if you dont have any, you dont need it on, I also disabled the SAS controller as I dont use these two ports either.

    As for drive config, you MUST make sure that you DVD drive is plugged into SATA Port 1, I then used port 3 and 5 for my 2 HDD's, you will then find when the RAid bios screen appears it should pick your DVD drive up as an AHCI device.

    When the RAID bios screen appears, enter the setup menu and delete all of your RAID arrays, then set them back up, you should then have a clean slate to work with.

    With no data at all on the HDD's and your Win7 DVD inserted you PC will have no other choice but to boot from the DVD drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProStock View Post
    thx i will give a try
    I have attempted this and it did not work as of P06. Maybe new BIOS rev allows. Bought myself an ARECA in the classies, LOVE IT, freedom of 6 drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    hmmm thats interesting, so even if you dont run IDE raid or Esata raid you have to set it to raid+IDE if you use ICH10 raid? hmmmm
    Valid observation. Can not say as I have not tried creating RAID IDE OR ESATA RAID.

    RAID = RAID all around
    RAID + IDE = ICH10 + Jmicron(NO RAID)
    IDE = IDE all around?
    DISABLED = HMMM

    I can tell you this, if you DO NOT set RAID to proper value of Jmicron behavior, P09 goes BOOM -> *sigh* -> RESET -> OC Gear -> Happiness.
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    S002wjh, my crossfire bridge spans 3" (approx. 3.5" including the knubs). It came with the following part numbers. ATI: 6110024000G, WST: G9016C219-001H

    If you Google those numbers, you'll find some places.

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