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    Recent water block (GT/Fuzion/Storm) test results...

    Here is a summary of the recent Fuzion, Apogee GT, and Storm test results that I've found to date...

    Notes:
    - If multiple mounts were done and results provided, I've indicated that and averaged the mounts/runs.
    - Review the test methodology details and test result details by clicking the links
    - All values are in deg C unless otherwise stated
    - DT Values are from Core Temp to Air (unless otherwise stated)
    - Quad core load temps as reported by core temp or TAT were averaged by the testers and sometimes the difference between cores was as much as 10 deg C. According to Philly_boy lapping seemed to reduce difference in cores significantly.


    H20 Frag-monger (Apogee vs. Storm R2 vs. Fuzion)
    CPU: X6800 OC to 3.8GHz
    WC Gear: MCP-655, MCR-220
    Test SW: TAT
    DT Results: Apogee = 55.8, Storm = 51.7, Fuzion = 49.5
    Winner: Fuzion beats Apogee by 6.3 and Storm by 2.2
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=152

    H20 Frag-monger (Apogee vs. Storm R2 vs. Fuzion)
    CPU: N/A - 30x30mm 100W die
    WC Gear: Lytron chiller
    Test SW: N/A
    DT Results: N/A (C/W Curves)
    C/W Results @ 1GPM: Apogee = 0.064, Storm = 0.059, Fuzion = 0.057
    Pressure Drop @ 1GPM: Apogee = 2PSI, Storm = 5PSI, Fuzion = 0.5PSI
    C/W Winner: @100W/1GPM Fuzion beats Apogee by 0.7 and Storm by 0.2
    PSI Winner: @1GPM Fuzion has 25% and 10% of the pressure drop of Apogee/Storm
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=304

    Nikhsub1 (Storm G5 vs. Fuzion vs Apogee GT)
    CPU: E6700 OC to 3.85GHz @ 1.56Vcore
    WC Gear: 2xDDC Ultra, PA-120.3
    Test SW: TAT
    DT Results (avg of 3 mounts each): Storm G5 = 39.08, Fuzion = 43.06, Apogee GT (flat) = 44.54
    Mount variation in DT: Storm 2 deg, Fuzion 2 deg, Apogee GT = 4.5 deg
    Winner: Storm G5 beats Fuzion by 3.98 and Apogee GT by 5.46
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=10

    FreeCableGuy (Storm R2 vs Apogee vs Fuzion vs Apogee GT)
    CPU: X3220 Quad Core
    WC Gear: D5, PA120.3
    Test SW: Prime95 x4
    DT Results (@150W): Apogee = 25, Storm = 26.5, Fuzion = 24, Apogee GT 24
    Winner: Fuzion and Apogee GT very close and beat Apogee by 1 and Storm by 2.5 (@150W)
    Link1: http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=85
    Link2: http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=78
    Link3: http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=84

    Philly_Boy CES Showdown Part 1 (Apogee GT vs. Fuzion)
    CPU: X6700 Quad Core OC to 3.6GHz @ 1.425Vcore
    WC Gear: MCP-655, MCR-320
    Test SW: CPU Burn 5
    DT Results: Apogee GT (Bow?) = 42.1 (1 run), Fuzion = 38.2 (avg. of 3 runs on 2 mounts)
    Winner: Fuzion beats Apogee GT (Bow?) by 3.9
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=84

    Philly_Boy CES Showdown Part 2 (Apogee GT vs. Fuzion)
    CPU: X6700 Quad Core (lapped) OC to 3.466GHz @ 1.5Vcore
    WC Gear: MCP-655, MCR-320
    Test SW: CPU Burn 5
    DT Results: Apogee GT (flat) = 41.7, Apogee GT (Bow) = 34.1, Fuzion = 37.3 (using D-Tek mounting hardware and methods)
    Winner: Apogee GT (Bow) beats Apogee GT (flat) by 7.6 and Fuzion by 3.2
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=130142

    Shamino (VR-Zone) (Apogee GT vs. Storm Vs. MCP-05 Pro)
    CPU: X6700 Quad Core OC to 3.615GHz @ 1.7Vcore
    WC Gear: D5, 2x120mm Rad?
    Test SW: CPU Burn
    DT Results (from Asus Probe): Apogee GT (flat) = 58, Storm = 60, MCP-05 Pro = 56
    Winner: MCP-05 Pro beats GT (flat) by 2 and Storm by 4
    Link: http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4476&s=1

    Budwise (Storm G4 R1 vs. Fuzion)
    CPU: E6600 OC to 3.6GHz @ 1.45Vcore
    WC Gear: MCP-655, PA120.3
    Test SW: Orthos
    DT Results (from CoreTemp): Storm = 54, Fuzion = 51
    Winner: Fuzion beats Storm by 3
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=30

    Philly_Boy (Apogee GT vs Fuzion)
    CPU: E6300 OC to 3.7GHz @ 1.6V Vcore
    WC Gear: MCP-355, PA120.3
    Test SW: TAT
    DT Results (from CoreTemp): Fuzion = 37, Apogee GT = 34
    Winner: Apogee GT (Bow) beats Fuzion by 3
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=54

    David D. at CoolingMasters.com (Rosco?) (No Fuzion tested)
    CPU: E6300 OC to 3.01GHz @ 1.59 Vcore
    WC Gear: AquaX150Z, MCR220
    Test SW: TAT
    DT Results Original IHS (Core to Water @ 350lph): Apogee = 47.1, Apogee GT = 44.4, Apogee GT (bow) = 42.1, Storm = 49.6, MP-05 SP = 48
    Winner: Apogee GT (bow) beats Apogee by 5, GT Flat by 2.3, Storm by 7.5, MP-05 by 5.9
    Link (translated): http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

    Kunaak (Fuzion vs Storm)
    CPU: X3210 (quad core) OC to 3.6GHz@ 1.48V Vcore
    WC Gear: MCP-655, Old BIX Extreme(?)
    Test SW: Wprime
    DT Results (Avg. from TAT): Fuzion = 42.9, Storm= 52.8
    Winner: Fuzion beats Storm by 9.9
    Link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=136703

    To see results of a MCW6002a compared with a Fuzion see post #59

    My conclusions so far:

    Given the fact that all tests by the same testers varied by up to 2-4 degrees just by remounting or doing another run and the fact that all blocks are typically within a few degrees of each other (and often much less) I would say it's impossible to declare any block definitively superior to another so far.

    Given this, I think any testing without multiple and equal number of remounts for each block can be very misleading. For example, Nikhsub1's tests show that the Fuzion could win by 4 degrees or lose by 1 degree to the GT depending on which mount and run you used to compare. With the mount making as much as a 5 degree difference on blocks that typically only differ by a couple of degrees it makes drawing conclusions from limited runs/mounts dubious at best.

    The only thing that everyone seems to agree on is that the Fuzion flows significantly better than any other CPU block giving it a distinct advantage in multi-block loop performance.

    BTW, if I've made a mistake in summarizing the results or there are other tests that can be added to the list above, please let me know. Keep in mind that if multiple runs or mounts were reported, I averaged the results of those runs/mounts in the summaries above.
    Last edited by virtualrain; 04-03-2007 at 01:27 PM.

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