E6900 or E8000 ?

[BlackX]

Spec:

E6900 4MB 3.20GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $969. us
E8000 4MB 3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB Q4 $1199. us (95 Watts)

As we see E6900 has 12x multi and E8000 has just 10x.
E6XXX serie can reach ~400FSB so its 400x12 = 4800MHz and hopefully new mobos with changeable voltage arive soon.

So is it worth to pay 230$ more for E8000 as we get lower clock?

[WildEye]

If Intel does to the E8000 as it has done to the 955 and 965 Extreme editions, it will have unlocked multiplier... so it could go higher than 12x

[BlackX]

yup, would be

[urbanfox]

Is the XE just a 10x 6700 with a faster stock FSB or is there architectural changes that would put the XE in the lead in terms of performance if both it and the 6700 were clocked the same?

[BlackX]

Is the XE just a 10x 6700 with a faster stock FSB or is there architectural changes that would put the XE in the lead in terms of performance if both it and the 6700 were clocked the same?

XE has different voltage, FSB and maybe unlocked multiplyer but architecture is the same.

[Thorburn]

XE will be unlocked and is certified for use on a 1333FSB.
It also opens up the overclocking features on Intel Extreme motherboards such as BadAxe.

[Skyline GT-R]

XE will be unlocked and is certified for use on a 1333FSB.
It also opens up the overclocking features on Intel Extreme motherboards such as BadAxe.

You can unlock those features with the Intel Integrator Toolkit for every intel CPU There is a How To here in the intel section for doing that

[cupholder2.0]

XE will be unlocked and is certified for use on a 1333FSB.
It also opens up the overclocking features on Intel Extreme motherboards such as BadAxe.

No, you no longer need an EE for OC on intel boards. I used a 950 PD and I oced to 5 ghz (not stable)on a D955XBK. If it doesnt let you OC you just use Intel Integrator toolkit and unlock bios options

[Thorburn]

No, you no longer need an EE for OC on intel boards. I used a 950 PD and I oced to 5 ghz (not stable)on a D955XBK. If it doesnt let you OC you just use Intel Integrator toolkit and unlock bios options

Didn't say you need it, just that it unlocks it
Of course there are other ways

[Vapor]

It's Intel's best silicon. Hasn't history already proven itself with their top-end CPUs? (780>>770, 67x>66x, 965>>950(or is it 960 now?), etc.)

If you want the best Intel CPU at both stock and end-OC, be willing to pay.

[savantu]

XE has 10-60 multiplier

[BlackX]

XE has 10-60 multiplier

OMG
sorry for stupid question but what influence to CPU has bigger multi? instead of higher clock ofcourse.. I mean why its not possible to make 60x multi?

[massman]

who needs x60 anyway ? :p

[WildEye]

There are some confusion in the rumors about this one... some say it will be released in Q4, others that it will be the first one to hit the streets...

[urbanfox]

There are some confusion in the rumors about this one... some say it will be released in Q4, others that it will be the first one to hit the streets...

Ye, I've read both and was confused as well.

I'm really hopinh it's the latter though

[kyleslater]

who needs x60 anyway ? :p

Um me....

[Waus-mod]

as an sample but not retail.

[Kjaks]

I would say E6900, because after seeing Merom and Conroe compared to each other it seems like Conroe doesn't really gain a lot due to the higher FSB speed. It gains a lot more of a higher core speed.

[Kjaks]

Well, say you've got a motherboard that manages to run a XE cpu at 400FSB maximum, that's 10x400=4000MHz core speed. The FSB can't go any higher than 400MHz, but then you raise the multi to 11x400=4400MHz core speed.

10x440MHz FSB will in most cases give more performance than 11x400MHz FSB, simply because the bus bandwidth is higher.

I really don't know why one can't use 60x multi, I've never seen anyone try. A XE at 3.33GHz with 60x multi will be limited to 55MHz FSB, and I guess that's not enough to make the cpu work well. I'm just guessing here..

[automagic]

My take on this is why spend the big bucks on the XE when all you really get is bragging rights. Spend $300 on a 2.4 conroe, then oc it and you'll have a really fast machine. IMHO

[LowRun]

My take on this is why spend the big bucks on the XE when all you really get is bragging rights. Spend $300 on a 2.4 conroe, then oc it and you'll have a really fast machine. IMHO

So very true but then again some people want every last drop of power higher multis could bring and they have the overclocked wallets to match, so why not?

[GoldenTiger]

So very true but then again some people want every last drop of power higher multis could bring and they have the overclocked wallets to match, so why not?

Sure if you have the wallet to match it for every component in your system, go ahead if you want... it's your money! I can't say I wouldn't in that position ! However, for most of the OC'ers on even these forums, we don't have huge wallets, and would rather get a lower CPU that will overclock to 90-95% of the performance, then use the extra money "saved" toward a second video card for SLI to whomp on what we could get if we went for the highest CPU and a single videocard.

[Thorburn]

My take on this is why spend the big bucks on the XE when all you really get is bragging rights. Spend $300 on a 2.4 conroe, then oc it and you'll have a really fast machine. IMHO

The XE offers the ultimate performance for people who don't want to overclock or for those who want the extra flexibility to get the optimum performance from there system by being able to choose the most suitable combination of FSB and multiplier.

[GoldenTiger]

The XE offers the ultimate performance for people who don't want to overclock or for those who want the extra flexibility to get the optimum performance from there system by being able to choose the most suitable combination of FSB and multiplier.

So you're saying if I want the best performance on a budget of oh say, $2000, I should go for the XE for $1200 and then have to dump my video cards into the toilet along with RAM quality/amount and hard drive speed/size? Yes, it is the ULTIMATE in performance for those who don't want to overclock, but for OC'ers, unless you're a hardcore bencher with tons of cash to throw at it, the XE is a poor choice. Most OC'ers don't have $5000 per rig to upgrade every few months to the next ubar-$1200 chip for 5% gain in system performance to grab those WR's.

I completely agree it's *THE BEST* chip for benchers, but saying it is "optimum" performance for those who want to be able to choose their multi, is bunk if you ask me. You will get the best optimum *system* performance by going for bang for the buck even on the higher-end of the spectrum such as the 2.4ghz-2.66ghz Conroe's, along with SLI video cards, instead of the XE with a single video card and slower RAM.

[Durzel]

So you're saying if I want the best performance on a budget of oh say, $2000, I should go for the XE for $1200 and then have to dump my video cards into the toilet along with RAM quality/amount and hard drive speed/size? Yes, it is the ULTIMATE in performance for those who don't want to overclock, but for OC'ers, unless you're a hardcore bencher with tons of cash to throw at it, the XE is a poor choice. Most OC'ers don't have $5000 per rig to upgrade every few months to the next ubar-$1200 chip for 5% gain in system performance to grab those WR's.

I completely agree it's *THE BEST* chip for benchers, but saying it is "optimum" performance for those who want to be able to choose their multi, is bunk if you ask me. You will get the best optimum *system* performance by going for bang for the buck even on the higher-end of the spectrum such as the 2.4ghz-2.66ghz Conroe's, along with SLI video cards, instead of the XE with a single video card and slower RAM.

I have to say I totally agree with this.

Assuming a fixed budget, if it was a decision between an E6700 and Crossfire/SLI and X6800 and a single card - then for gaming at least the Xfire/SLI option would be clearly faster.

X6800 may be the fastest chip, but that doesn't automatically make any system with it as a component the "fastest system".

Obviously if your pockets are bottomless and you intended to buy the absolute best (read: most expensive) of everything then the X6800 would be a no-brainer.