Post your luck with DFI Experts and/or RDX200 boards

[alpha0ne]

That's all I'm going to contribute to this worthless hytseria thread

If its such worthless hysteria then why "contribute"

[uOpt]

same voltage regulation on both boards.

Point taken.

Still, for this thread to be useful we need the links to the original reports.

[Jort]

i was just listing processor deaths.

i know, the above as an anwer to the poll,
i added myself to the quote

[Dumo]

Point taken.

Still, for this thread to be useful we need the links to the original reports.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82281
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82243
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=79187
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82076
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=79638
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81012

[shawn1998]

My new build is working fine here, although I only put it together last night. Could there be a possible problem with the original shipping bios (11/02/05)? I flashed to the 11/25 bios last night when I installed everything and so far so good. Just wonder if the original bios might be flawed somehow?

Shawn

[Necroastr]

My new build is working fine here, although I only put it together last night. Could there be a possible problem with the original shipping bios (11/02/05)? I flashed to the 11/25 bios last night when I installed everything and so far so good. Just wonder if the original bios might be flawed somehow?

Shawn

Dun think there is any flaw with the original shipping bios (11/02/05), my mobo currently still using this

[pcfreak]

Since Saturady running fine mostly prime-spi. No cut either...

[shawn1998]

Like I said, just curious. It seems when people here and around the net report that the board has killed there components, no one ever reports what bios they were using. Just trying to get some sort of history if I could.

Shawn

[mdzcpa]

If its such worthless hysteria then why "contribute"

That's easy, if there is to be ANY meaningful outcome of the poll, those folks who are running trouble free need to respond. If they do not, then all you get is a report of problems without relation to the general population. That's the trouble with threads like these. They tend to accumulate all the trouble users while most of the happy campers ignore it.

XS is an OC community leader and I'm going to do all I can to try to help threads like this become as meaningful as possible even if the results are still skewed.

[uOpt]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82281
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82243
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=79187
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82076
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=79638
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81012

Well this is why I wanted the threads.

Number 1 is probably legit, but see below.
Number 2 was a bad PSU, as it says in the initial post.
Number 3 was not an Expert board, we don't know whether the ATI boards have the same issue or not.
Number 4 is a dead board, not a dead CPU.
Number 5 was a pre-release board, not a retail one.
Number 6 is another ATI board and the very first posts says "luckily it didn't take my 3500+ with it".

From what I can see 1.5 CPUs have been killed by Expert boards, counting the pre-release board as half.

Whether we can throw the ATI boards and the Expert into the same basket is unknown and given DFI's unwillingness to debug we probably will never know. In any case, the second ATI board case you gave did not kill the CPU.

Pedro has been unwilling to answer questions about what Vcore and Vdimm he ran, whether he voltmetered anything or what kind of RAM he used. OPB, who used a pre-release board, made a public statement that while his CPUs were killed he doesn't see a reason to disrecommend the retail boards.

I think the whole theory is a little shaky.

[loonym]

aside from the lp-250gb, the sli-dr expert is the best board i've seen to date

[Jort]

Well this is why I wanted the threads.

Number 1 is probably legit, but see below.
Number 2 was a bad PSU, as it says in the initial post.
Number 3 was not an Expert board, we don't know whether the ATI boards have the same issue or not.
Number 4 is a dead board, not a dead CPU.
Number 5 was a pre-release board, not a retail one.
Number 6 is another ATI board and the very first posts says "luckily it didn't take my 3500+ with it".

From what I can see 1.5 CPUs have been killed by Expert boards, counting the pre-release board as half.

Whether we can throw the ATI boards and the Expert into the same basket is unknown and given DFI's unwillingness to debug we probably will never know. In any case, the second ATI board case you gave did not kill the CPU.

Pedro has been unwilling to answer questions about what Vcore and Vdimm he ran, whether he voltmetered anything or what kind of RAM he used. OPB, who used a pre-release board, made a public statement that while his CPUs were killed he doesn't see a reason to disrecommend the retail boards.

I think the whole theory is a little shaky.

this rdx did kill a opteron 146

didn't even saw the postscreen, just press power and it didn't do anything,
i tested the cpu on a friends mobo=> no post

i want dfi to check that case badly because i don't even know i get rma and when i put it into a new board it shouldn't take my cpu with it.

if i oc'ed with it its another case, wich i didn't do that day

[Pedro Rocha]

Pedro has been unwilling to answer questions about what Vcore and Vdimm he ran, whether he voltmetered anything or what kind of RAM he used

On the Expert
VCore=1,77v (maximum)
VDimm=3,6v (maximum and voltemetered)
RAM=Corsair BH5

I use these voltages for benching since the DFI SLI-DR came out..

[uOpt]

1.77 reported by BIOS or set in BIOS?

[mdzcpa]

On the Expert
VCore=1,77v (maximum)

Wouldn't you think that over time this level of voltage can contribute to the CPU dying?

Another thing. DFI made it clear NOT to duplicate settings from the old DFI Ultra/SLI to the Expert. The CPU voltage doesn't droop on the Expert.

I dunno. How can you complain that a mobo killed a chip when you put 1.77v through it. Thats about a 25.6% increase over stock volts regardless of the cooling provided

[uOpt]

What do you guys think about this ATI board phaenomenon?

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33268

[mdzcpa]

From what I can see 1.5 CPUs have been killed by Expert boards, counting the pre-release board as half.

Whether we can throw the ATI boards and the Expert into the same basket is unknown and given DFI's unwillingness to debug we probably will never know. In any case, the second ATI board case you gave did not kill the CPU.

I think the whole theory is a little shaky.

Well said. This is all I'm trying to get people to think about before they panic. All we do is drive manufacturers away from the enthusiast market when we let things get out of hand.

[mdzcpa]

What do you guys think about this ATI board phaenomenon?

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33268

Until this is confirmed, its just another trouble report. I think there might be merit to this one...but I need other confirmation from reputable sources.

[jinu117]

Makes me wonder how lucky you are with DFI mdzcpa... damn... if I ever want to get DFI board... I should get one from you But for now, I am off the hook. If I must lose 50mhz, so be it... I'd rather have something that I don't expect to die in 3 months... (seems to be life span under heavy usage with all the people I personally know)

[uOpt]

For what it's worth, I would be happy to examine one of these "CPU killer" boards and even risk a CPU doing it if somebody is willing to lend one out for two weeks before RMAing it.

[Pedro Rocha]

I'm not going post anymore about this issue

Dead CPU and Expert motherbard are available to be analyzed DFI if they want..

If DFI want to gave and explanation I'm opened to fully co-operate with their technician.

[5-Clicks]

the reason I started this thread is to help people get a better perspective on how much of a risk these boards are. A lot of people I've encountered have said that they'll never recommend DFI again because of all of the bad reports. Well, everybody reports bad things and how mad they are, but hardly anybody starts a thread with "THIS BOARD RAWKS"...thus putting a negative spin on ALL DFI boards (more of a spin then there should be, at least).

[LowRun]

Well, judging by his "unlocking an Athlon 64" thread it seems that join nbk is experiencing some very rare adventures but how come he possibly experienced the nine situations of the poll especially when two are in contradiction with the seven others

[demonbane23]

Well, judging by his "unlocking an Athlon 64" thread it seems that join nbk is experiencing some very rare adventures but how come he possibly experienced the nine situations of the poll especially when two are in contradiction with the seven others

oh god that kids "unlocking an Athlon 64" thread was hilarious especially since he always typed his messages in a hurried manner as if like Federal Agents were about to break down his door and stop him from revealing his secrets,,,

[uOpt]

oh god that kids "unlocking an Athlon 64" thread was hilarious especially since he always typed his messages in a hurried manner as if like Federal Agents were about to break down his door and stop him from revealing his secrets,,,

Yeah, he was just too quick for us. Next time we'll try CS gas first.