Guide To Current WaterCooling Components

[skane]

other question: what do you think about this block? according to some german sites, it performs better than the nexxos, but would that be because they use weak pumps?

[malvare1]

What do I need to buy ? This will be for an opty 170 ccbwe 546
Could someone list all the parts and where could I get them. I would like to buy the best performer or maybe the second best
Also how do I mount this this to my expert board ?
thanks

[MaxxxRacer]

cd, the difference is the top plate material. Delrin/Brass/Plated Brass...... SP/Pro/Extreme

[Budwise]

any info on the MCR220?

[ewitte]

Is there a good high pressure GPU block? I'm putting the CPU on phase change. So the GPU will be the primary focus on the water pump.

[Viktor]

Hello, soon I will be able to complete my first watercooling setup, I already have some of the parts at home, I thought I should write them down so you guys could comment them:
CPU: Swiftech Storm
Gpu: Maze 4
Rad: Bix 2
Pump: Laing D5

Now I have some questions, will the pump be able to provide good flowrates, enough for the Storm block to work properly ?
And then it seems like the BIx 2 rad is a bit dated, I'm not all happy with this one, will it be enough to get good temps w/ my X2 and 6800GT gfx card ?
Last of all, which fans should I get ? I've checked around and found a Papst fan with 88CFM rated @ 38dB which seems like a good level between sound and performance. Let me know your thoughts abt this setup, every little bit helps.

[Nicksterr]

You will have no problems with flow rates with that setup.

[nop]

sorry for asking. Will it be enough if i'll get BIX to go with Storm, Maze4 and MCP655 pump ? Thanks.

[Nicksterr]

Hmm a single 120mm rad for a CPU + GPU? It will cool your components OK, but your temps will be rather warm. For that setup, you're going to want a dual 120mm rad.

[nop]

thanks Nicksterr, so which one should i pick between BIX2 or MCR220-QP for best performance?

Would MCR220-QP with Nexus 120mm Real Silent (36.87 CFM) give me a better result than BIX2 with Panaflo 120mm Fan FBK-12G12LH (68.9 CFM) ?

[Nicksterr]

I have the MCR220-QP myself and it handles my CPU + GPU quite well. Are those 2 brand fans your only choices? I'd suggest the Thermaltake Thunderblade fans. They move 78 CFM's @ 21dba. Well, it's more like 30dba to be honest, but that's still pretty quiet.

[MaxxxRacer]

The thunderblades are pretty good fans, but they do have a bit more motor noise than I would like.

[nop]

how about Nexus fan with MCR220-QP MaxxxRacer ? Thanks.

[MaxxxRacer]

I use the nexus fans (Yate-Loon) on a BIX and it does great with My Opteron 146 at 2.7ghz and vmoded X800GTO, and these fans would work even better on the MCR220..

That combination is what I reccomend for good perofrmance, low cost and silence.

[nop]

Thanks MaxxxRacer

[Gascogne]

Im going to upgrade some parts in my watercooling system but I have some questions Im wonder I could get some light on.

Current setup: (comp spec in sig)
Rad: BiX 2 (two papst 120mm 55.3cfm 26dB)
Pump: Hydor L30
Cpu: Antarctica

(Yes its some parts are from Asetek WaterChill KT12A-L20 kit ^^; )

New parts (to buy)
Pump: Danger Den D5
Cpu: Swiftech Storm
Rad: ?
My question here is, would it be better with a BiP 2 than a BiX 2 for my setup?

*edit*
A side question:
Would two 120mm Cooltek aluminum fans (44.7cfm 19dB) work well with BiP 2 if one wants lower noise and keep good cooling?

[MaxxxRacer]

Not sure what those Cooltek fans are, but if you can find it the MCR220QP would be a better choice for achieving silence over the BIP2.

But with your papst, the BIX2 is fine. I use two yate loons on my BIX2 and it cools an Opteron 146 at 2.7ghz and a Overvolted X800GO, so you shouldnt have a problem with the rad.

[The Dome]

From what I saw the Apogee performs very well agaisnt the Storm. I moved from the White Water to the apogee and saw a 2C drop in idle.

[MaxxxRacer]

Dome, those numbers are totaly bogus...

I in the coming weeks I will have real performance numbers for all the current waterblocks.

[The Dome]

They very well could be, I have no way of proving if they were legit or not. Right now I have a TDX and WhiteWater I can bench along with the Apogee if you would like? My sig is a bit outdated, sold one of the GT's to move for a X1900XT. So when I re-drain her I'll run some tests for you guys

But here is another test done all of Switech's blocks and it shows some what similar results, I would have trouble thinking that two sites fugged results.

[MaxxxRacer]

Dome, IIRC the picture u just showed is from Systemcoolings review. Robotech even stated that the part of the review you posted was pretty much useless as it showed the Apogee, Storm and MCW6002 giving the exact same core temp and that taking temps from the side of the IHS is a dubious prospect at best.

And not to be offensive here, but any results you can show with on die sensors will be bogus as well. Please keep in mind that I am not trying to single out the Apogee here, rather this is a general statement. If your results show the White Water winning by 4C over the Apogee (or reverse of that), I wont change my statements.

[The Dome]

No offense taken, how would you like me to record temps down for you, I do have external sensor that can placed directly inbetween the core and block (IHS off mind you).

[MaxxxRacer]

what kind of sensor could you possibly put between the core and block without killing the mount?

In any case a sensor thermal epoxied to the side of the core works relatively well.

[Viktor]

Well, since I broke one fitting on my storm block while mounting it, I have to buy new ones. They are not available here in Sweden so I have to order new ones from USA, guess how much the fittings cost ? Well, I can tell you, about 1$, guess how much the shipping costs ? Well, 32$ freakin' green ones. That's just stupid.

[MaxxxRacer]

ROFLMAO....

that sucks hardcore but its stil funny. I suggest you buy like 10 of them.. might be able to sell them to locals who have the same problem as u.