Just what is TCC5?

[hansbroken]

if its marked tccd, its probably tccd. there are still available sources of tccD, but its more expenbsive than tcc5. corsair has a cheap, *fresh* supply of tccd, samsung is making it for --Them. doesnt mean other companys cant get it corsair is probably the one keeping it in production. i dont know the details, but im sure other companys can get it, just ahve to pay a bit more.

and yea OCZ uses the bp pcb most of the time last i checked.

Thanks for the info

[ray99mond]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=28155
These is my Gskill FC modules overclocking result.
this is the highest stable setting (passed memtest86, super PI 32M, gaming and etc) for this Gskill FC PC4400

BIOS 414-3
2.8Vdimm
Samsung TCC5, 0522

[Super strokey]

Well i just got my abit an8 sli and my ocz rev 2 3200 (which i assume is tcc5) and its running 256 mhz at 2.5,3,3,7 with 2.8 vdimm. My only real question is should i feed it more volts for more clocks or is tcc5 the same as tccd and more volts actually reduces stability?

[SubX]

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz

[BioPC]

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz

Could you show some SuperPi 16M-32M screens?

[rick_fx]

Any pics

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz

holy crap, nice 4.2s you've got... Mine'll only do up to 2.5-3-3-10 T2 @ 450. I blame socket 754.

[Rick_Hunter]

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz

cas 1.5 on tcc5?

pics please

[largon]

According to AMD's datasheets A64 doesn't actually use CL1.5. Even though some boards have that option it isn't *really* CL1.5.
If the RAM can do CL2, it should be able to do this pseudo-CL1.5.

[Rick_Hunter]

According to AMD's datasheets A64 doesn't actually use CL1.5. Even though some boards have that option it isn't *really* CL1.5.
If the RAM can do CL2, it should be able to do this pseudo-CL1.5.

so cas 2 on tcc5?

[JuanFlaiter]

According to AMD's datasheets A64 doesn't actually use CL1.5. Even though some boards have that option it isn't *really* CL1.5.
If the RAM can do CL2, it should be able to do this pseudo-CL1.5.

Although some CPUs prefer CL1.5 than CL2.

I can stabilize my BH5 at CL 1.5 280mhz and CL2 278mhz.

Greets!

[saaya]

are you sure?
i thougt the cas1.5 setting is actually beeing ignored by the system...

[SubX]

450Mhz 1.5-2-2-5 T1

690Mhz 2.5-4-3-0 T1 (Sandra BW)

[kiwi]

SubX:

What about SP32M or prime? Sandra bandwidth is really low for 690Mhz

[wakdog]

also that second shot of sandra at DDR690 is actually at 2T not 1T like you said...

[Vapor]

Sandra always says that I think....the BW is WAYYYYY too low for those clocks though. Me thinks the 4x multi was used.

[SubX]

also that second shot of sandra at DDR690 is actually at 2T not 1T like you said...

Sandra allways shows 2cmd , check it your self

The BW is low because the CPU multiplier was x7 (crap Venice 0524)

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Just got the new Mushkin extreme PC3200 Level 2, I think the part number is 991357.
http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...tail.asp?ID=15

I think they carry the TCC5 chips, but im too afraid to take of the heatspreaders to have a peek.
Atm they are doing 270MHz 2.5-3-3-7 with only 2.5v!! And this speed is where my winnies memory controller maxes out, so I cant get em higher. But overall this is real good mem, and they perform like memory that are way more expensive.
I bought em even though a bunch of people recommended me not to, but now I will recommend them to anyone who are looking for some good TCCD like mem!

[Reefa_Madness]

According to a thread started by a Mushkin rep (Zebbo) over at OCF, Mushkin has returned to using TCCD, instead of TCC5, in their XP3200 and XP4400.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=419290

Just thought that was worth sharing.

I wonder if perhaps they've done the same with the PC3200 Level 2 V2?

[RyderOCZ]

Sandra allways shows 2cmd , check it your self

The BW is low because the CPU multiplier was x7 (crap Venice 0524)

Its also low because of Single Channel

[qwerty!]

yep.

[Tamille]

Just found out that 4200EL is now TCC5. Will post my results in a bit.

[IMG]h***://members.shaw.ca/Eldonko/v11.jpg[/IMG]

EDIT: 284Mhz @2.5-3-3-5 and 2.8v, 289Mhz @2.5-4-3-5 and 3.0v are the limits on this RAM

I have the same ram as you. If i go under 280mhz the ram s its self. i only just bought it 5 days ago. so far running at 300mhz 1T 2.5-4-3-7 2.8v 1:1 LDT 3x

[smolk]

I think TCC5 should be a bit better:



As you can see, TCCD is rated 4ns (250MHz) and TCC5 is rated 3,75ns (266,67MHz) at the same timings. But of course, it can be some Samsung gibberish, even though I don't think it is.

Complete .pdf: http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/u.../TCCD-TCC5.PNG

[Vapor]

Ugh, we don't more debate on this....and where is that image from? What's with this CF stuff that can do very well at 1.9V? Pffff....we KNOW this: TCC5 is just a lower binning (at Samsung) of the same die as TCCD.

[ozzimark]

Its also low because of Single Channel

if you did the math, ddr690's theoretical bandwidth is 5520mb/s, way under the results he posted

or i could be stupid and missing something key