OCZ Value VX testing and results

[13oost]

yep, w00t; 2 manga releases today, hopefully a new episode tonight

hmm, im thinking ill do a vdimm=vio mod... dont really feel like soldering on that tiny resistor... i have a 3.3vsense line so that should work i guess... any input...?

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whoot newegg is awesome... but this GeIL is hangin on by a thread

[babyelf]

not very sure about nf7-s.. might be better doing a search on it.. but if the latter works for u then go ahead..

[13oost]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=15518, the yellow line, but soldering to all 3 banks....

or

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...58&postcount=1 << which looks more tempting, cleaner voltage

and do the 3.3v vsense

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=99

get that ram voltage up there

[SDX]

Strange that the timings on your sticker are 3-4-4-8 because mine are 2.5-3-3-7. My Value VX sticks don't even boot at 3-X-X-X. I saw this on the RAM LIST sticky and tried it once and later many, babyelf included, told me of this fact.

I got this Value VX almost the first week after it was available.

One stick is dead because I scratched the PCB all up becuase I am stupid=\, the other one runs clear through memtest86 at 245 2-2-2-5 3.2v damn nice in my opinion. Planning on trying a set of the OCZ PC3200 Gold BH-UTT when I get s'more money.

[babyelf]

ahh ic..

i'd go option 2 hehe

SDX.. how did u.. erm... scratch ur PCB? itchy PCB? :p

[RyderOCZ]

Edit on my original post, to confirm...Alphaalien is correct

OCZ400512ELGE / OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K - Winbond BH

OCZ400512WV3 / OCZ4001024WV3DC-K - Winbond BH


OCZ400512ELGEVX / OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K - Winbond CH

OCZ500512ELGEVX / OCZ5001024ELDCGEVX-K - Winbond CH

Hope that clears it up....sorry I didn't have that right the first time

[babyelf]

so the value lines are all BH?

thought it's the same as the vx line of products? hmm =/

[musk]

Edit on my original post, to confirm...Alphaalien is correct

OCZ400512ELGE / OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K - Winbond BH

OCZ400512WV3 / OCZ4001024WV3DC-K - Winbond BH


OCZ400512ELGEVX / OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K - Winbond CH

OCZ500512ELGEVX / OCZ5001024ELDCGEVX-K - Winbond CH

Hope that clears it up....sorry I didn't have that right the first time

According to this, my OCZ4001024WV3DC-K shown below is BH die? It has no dimples.


Just wondering

[alphaalien]

OCZ400512WV3 / OCZ4001024WV3DC-K used to use Winbond CH for a short period of time, but changed to Winbond BH to give higher performance out of the box. Generally Winbond BH has a higher capacity of passing 2-2-2 200-220FSB without a speed grade than Winbond CH.

The modules you have pictured above Musk are Winbond CH.

[alphaalien]

To clarify on the dimples, as of late March, early April Winbond started producing both Winbond BH and Winbond CH with dimples, so that cannot be used to tell the difference after March 2005.

[13oost]

got the wire, new 30w soldering iron and some srink wrap today for the vdimm=vio mod, should pick up the stuff for the vsense tomorrow (couldnt remember which to get exactly, the resistor values, etc.... is 15turns ok?)

ram should be in tomorrow... im going to try and see what i can get out of it at my board's 2.96vdimm max first...

[MAValpha]

Strange that the timings on your sticker are 3-4-4-8 because mine are 2.5-3-3-7. My Value VX sticks don't even boot at 3-X-X-X. I saw this on the RAM LIST sticky and tried it once and later many, babyelf included, told me of this fact.

Typical behavior of the old BH-5 dies, I think it's safe to say yours are BH5. BTW, this is a very easy way for all of you guys to figure out if yours are CH5 or BH5- BH doesn't boot at cas3. I forgot all about this, but have confirmed it with all four of my old BH-5 sticks.

Also, BH does NOT scale with timings- if it'll run at 2.5-3-3-7 at any given speed/voltage, it'll run 2-2-2-5 by dropping no more than 5MHz without any further adjustments.

[babyelf]

got the wire, new 30w soldering iron and some srink wrap today for the vdimm=vio mod, should pick up the stuff for the vsense tomorrow (couldnt remember which to get exactly, the resistor values, etc.... is 15turns ok?)

ram should be in tomorrow... im going to try and see what i can get out of it at my board's 2.96vdimm max first...

let us know how it does

[13oost]

hopin for bh-5

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=58507
if it cant do well, ill have that done in a few days then...
also maybe this...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=99

bad thing is, i doubt they would let me rma if i burn the ram out at 3.X voltage

even 2.9?!

[babyelf]

lol yep.. hope it turns out like a charm for ya

[FLD]

Typical behavior of the old BH-5 dies, I think it's safe to say yours are BH5. BTW, this is a very easy way for all of you guys to figure out if yours are CH5 or BH5- BH doesn't boot at cas3. I forgot all about this, but have confirmed it with all four of my old BH-5 sticks.

Also, BH does NOT scale with timings- if it'll run at 2.5-3-3-7 at any given speed/voltage, it'll run 2-2-2-5 by dropping no more than 5MHz without any further adjustments.

Thanks a great deal. Would this mean at 3-x-x-x CH-5 might still boot while BH-5 would not? I am glad that I have BH-5 ram.

I just managed to leave the ram running on an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe for like 120 loops on Test #5 at 2-2-2-5 DDR400 2.8V and I got about 4 errors.

Is this normal for BH-5 ram?

Thanks.

[13oost]

yes and no, but from the guides ive seen for Winbond chips, keep burning, and theyll disappear

btw, when and where did you get your sicks?

[FLDQUY157]

yes and no, but from the guides ive seen for Winbond chips, keep burning, and theyll disappear

btw, when and where did you get your sicks?

I got the sticks about a week ago in from a local shop in Melbourne.

The pairs have been burned in for more than 48 hours in total (I did like 3 -4 times) at 2-2-2-5 in all-test loops @ 3.2Vdimm.

But I guess I can't RMA it at least in OZ based on this ground because I was running it outside it specs.

EDIT: My brother and I share the same computers so it can mix up sometimes because of cookies stored in the PCs. His is FLD and mine is FLDQUY157. But we share all info, so it's alright to answer.

Sorry about this.

Thanks a lot.

[babyelf]

complete spec?

[13oost]

sticks just came in, and i just went by Radio shack and got a DMM, VR, resistors, exchanged my wires...

my sticker says its Dual CH, but, yea... seems like the stickers are wrogn as of recent

the numbers on the chips is

X4W560842C-50
0518K

[alphaalien]

Typical behavior of the old BH-5 dies, I think it's safe to say yours are BH5. BTW, this is a very easy way for all of you guys to figure out if yours are CH5 or BH5- BH doesn't boot at cas3. I forgot all about this, but have confirmed it with all four of my old BH-5 sticks.

Also, BH does NOT scale with timings- if it'll run at 2.5-3-3-7 at any given speed/voltage, it'll run 2-2-2-5 by dropping no more than 5MHz without any further adjustments.

The reason for the timings adustment is that Winbond BH is architecturally (is this a word?) incapable of doing CAS3 timings. No Winbond BH will ever post at cas3, that is why the timings were adjusted to 2.5-4-4 (current spec).

[13oost]

sooo confused.... the Value (Winbond) series on OCZ says its 2.5-4-4-8

and i have 2.5-3-3-7 on mine....

ive seen people with 3-4-4-8

omg, ok....
2.5-3-3-7 = CH-5?
2.5-4-4-8 = BH-5

just looked at newegg, the single sticks are 2.5-4-4-8
and the dual sticks are 2.5-3-3-7

so it looks like newegg's current stock of Value ram =
BH - single 512 stick
CH - dual channel set

maybe i should of got 2 single sticks agian

my hypotheseis...

if you get Value ram, ONLY BUY SINGLE STICKS
it seems that the older sticks end up in DC kits so they can get rid of them faster.... plus theyll get more out of selling 2 single sticks, than they would on a DC kit

[SDX]

sooo confused.... the Value (Winbond) series on OCZ says its 2.5-4-4-8

and i have 2.5-3-3-7 on mine....

ive seen people with 3-4-4-8

Anything with cas 2.5 is BH-UTT

Anything with cas 3 (like mine) is CH-UTT

all clear now? =)

[13oost]

er, no.... there is no 3-4-4-8 anymore in their line...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227213

current specs on OCZ's site w/ the (BH-5 sticks, sinc their site should have current updated data, looks like the codes on the BH is flipped from what is on CH)
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...s_dual_channel

found somone (SaFrOuT) that has the exact same thing on the sticks as i do...
makes me kinda sick, wanted BH-5 so i could get the good speeds w/ lower voltages, w/o doing any mod's on my board, and voiding the warrenty of 2.6 +-5%

SDX, whats on your chips?

EDIT:: do you think that i would be able to keep the timmings and mhz i have now and stay w/in the warrenty range? 2.5-2-2-11 @ 238mhz?

[Okda]

Edit on my original post, to confirm...Alphaalien is correct

OCZ400512ELGE / OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K - Winbond BH

OCZ400512WV3 / OCZ4001024WV3DC-K - Winbond BH


OCZ400512ELGEVX / OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K - Winbond CH

OCZ500512ELGEVX / OCZ5001024ELDCGEVX-K - Winbond CH

Hope that clears it up....sorry I didn't have that right the first time

i got here those:
PN: OCZ4001024WV3DC-K
on chip : X4W560842C-50
0518K

and i am sure that they r CH since i can't get any higher than 215FSB using Vdimm 3.2 from 3.3v rail

and i need 3.1Vdimm to be stable on my 24/7 settings
300x9 1.4x104%
ratio 140:200 == 210FSB

minimum 3V for 200FSB and 3.3 for 250FSB and anything greater than that won't be stable even with 3.6V

haven't burnt them till now , gonna do tonight or tom for sometime using test5

so r u sure Andy that ur info is 100% correct that my kit according to ur words they r supposed to be BH but i can get 200FSB stable with less than 3V

any thoughts ?