MUSHKIN REDLINE XP4000 sneak peek...

**SVTSnake** · 05-01-2005, 04:41 PM

So these are going to be available tomorrow? They look like some really nice sticks...

**SLaY3r07** · 05-01-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by SVTSnake

So these are going to be available tomorrow? They look like some really nice sticks...

You got that right

**EMC2** · 05-01-2005, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by JNav89GT

got mine I'm playing with and my San Diego

Interleave on or off JNav?

**JNav89GT** · 05-01-2005, 06:19 PM

interleave is on

**charlie** · 05-01-2005, 06:22 PM

VERY nice... that's about exactly what mine do. SPi stable/3D stable at 275-280.

My San Diego will be here tommorrow, which BIOS do you use?

C

**Soulburner** · 05-01-2005, 11:40 PM

Just waiting for these to show up on newegg...

I also hope the San Diegos show up on newegg this week...

**Ubermann** · 05-02-2005, 12:17 AM

Insane good with interleaving on, wonder how they make em that way.

**DeltZ** · 05-02-2005, 12:22 AM

these are the guaranteed clocks speeds i need on my intel for my max overclock...too bad i can't afford even 1/4 of that ram..

btw...question: when companies speed bin ram...you reckon they verify operation to 275 mhz to make sure of discrepancies in motherboards, compatibility etc. to make sure it works at 250 mhz?

**(sin)morpheus** · 05-02-2005, 01:26 AM

Wow, really nice stuff. Looks like I might be getting some of those redliners.

**KoNiaK** · 05-02-2005, 01:50 AM

Considering the 2 results, it's seams crasy performances. VX do not reach those speeds with two sample what so ever.

Can someone confirm the ICs

**Major** · 05-02-2005, 04:45 AM

IMO its new BH

So, when are these going to be available charlie ?? where ? I think I'll have to try um

**JNav89GT** · 05-02-2005, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by DeltZ

these are the guaranteed clocks speeds i need on my intel for my max overclock...too bad i can't afford even 1/4 of that ram..

btw...question: when companies speed bin ram...you reckon they verify operation to 275 mhz to make sure of discrepancies in motherboards, compatibility etc. to make sure it works at 250 mhz?

I would almost guarantee they don't speed bin at 275MHz. I have another set that does 258-260. So people need to be realistic that while this is awesome memory, I don't think every kit is going to do 275+ Mhz. It's great that there's a decent chance for that possibility though, and very fun memory to play with.

Also, keep in mind that on Intel running tight timings on their memory controllers seems to be alot harder than on A64. So I would caution people with Intel platforms that they might not achieve optimial results on that platform. Personally, I would probably go with a Hynix or Samsung modules for Intel until someone can step up and say these work great on Intel. Unfortuneately I don't have a voltage booster, and my only intel DDR board is an Albatron 865 socket T board that maxes at 2.8 or 2.9 vdimm.

**mtb856** · 05-02-2005, 05:32 AM

Wow, even if they all don't do that speed at those timings that's still impressive..... my OCZ PC4000 only did 280mhz at 3-4-4-8 (2.8V) on my Intel, so I'd imagine that this chips will probably at least do 2-3-3-6 at that speed on an Intel setup.

**KoNiaK** · 05-02-2005, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by JNav89GT

I would almost guarantee they don't speed bin at 275MHz. I have another set that does 258-260. So people need to be realistic that while this is awesome memory, I don't think every kit is going to do 275+ Mhz. It's great that there's a decent chance for that possibility though, and very fun memory to play with.

Also, keep in mind that on Intel running tight timings on their memory controllers seems to be alot harder than on A64. So I would caution people with Intel platforms that they might not achieve optimial results on that platform. Personally, I would probably go with a Hynix or Samsung modules for Intel until someone can step up and say these work great on Intel. Unfortuneately I don't have a voltage booster, and my only intel DDR board is an Albatron 865 socket T board that maxes at 2.8 or 2.9 vdimm.

Thanks for your honesty. 260MHz is still good, it seams kinda equal to VX even if ICs are different.
Can you confirm it is UTT-BH5 (new BH5) and not UTT-CH5 (like VX)
Thanks

**JNav89GT** · 05-02-2005, 06:09 AM

sorry don't want to remove spreaders as these are review samples

**DeltZ** · 05-02-2005, 06:10 AM

but if they speed binned to 250mhz (ie borderline spec) then wouldn't like 50% of them just get RMA'ed?

**charlie** · 05-02-2005, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by DeltZ

but if they speed binned to 250mhz (ie borderline spec) then wouldn't like 50% of them just get RMA'ed?

why?

C

**JNav89GT** · 05-02-2005, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by DeltZ

but if they speed binned to 250mhz (ie borderline spec) then wouldn't like 50% of them just get RMA'ed?

lol
I don't understand either. I mean if they run 250 at 3.2-3.4v at tight timings of 2-2-2-6 why would 50% get rma'd? I admit it'd suck a bit to get a kit that wouldn't do 251mhz, but even if that's the case, what grounds to consumer have to RMA them? Would be pretty shady to do so anyway. Course I don't really know much about binning process so maybe they do bin higher, but I think people need to consider their platform before purchasing. If they have an NForce2 mobo that tops out at 2.8v, there's no way in hell they will get anywhere near 250. In addition, Intel P4 platforms don't seen to do tight timings with near the ease that A64 do at 240-260MHz levels.

**trans am** · 05-02-2005, 06:54 AM

just over 4v?
CHarlie, I am very curious how the hell you are cooling your RL's. Do tell.

**Eldonko** · 05-02-2005, 07:23 AM

I'm also interested to see what chips these use, BH or CH. I think realistically an average set of Redline will be about the same as VX, 260Mhz or so. Only time will tell. The way I look at it, what is the incentive for us to buy Redline instead of VX? Will it be cheaper? Will it be better?

IMO, I don't think we have anything groundbreaking here, just some motivation for OCZ to come out with some higher speed VX.

**Soulburner** · 05-02-2005, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by mtb856

Wow, even if they all don't do that speed at those timings that's still impressive..... my OCZ PC4000 only did 280mhz at 3-4-4-8 (2.8V) on my Intel, so I'd imagine that this chips will probably at least do 2-3-3-6 at that speed on an Intel setup.

I wouldn't bother with those timings, as they don't help this kind of memory clock much higher usually, 5-10mhz at best.

Well it's monday and I can't find it for sale...anyone have any luck?

**charlie** · 05-02-2005, 09:31 AM

For me, the best thing about these sticks is that they don't "give up" at a certain voltage. I've had UTT sticks that will peak at 3.6v or 3.7v....
These sticks keep pulling at 3.8-4.0v, as long as I keep them cool. I bench on the patio in 15C temps with an 80mm Tornado on the ram, and I've seen 290+, 2-2-2, 1T Interleave enabled.
When my SD arrives, I'm hoping the improved mem controller will give me some more headroom for the sticks...
My goal is DDR600, 2-2-2 with 1gB

C

**SVTSnake** · 05-02-2005, 09:32 AM

Per my conversation with Mushkin this morning, it won't be available until sometime later in the week...

**Duonger** · 05-02-2005, 10:05 AM

We have asked our resellers to add them to the list of products but I guess it takes time. From what i have heard, we might release these on our site 1st.

Duonger

**bachus_anonym** · 05-02-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Duonger

We have asked our resellers to add them to the list of products but I guess it takes time. From what i have heard, we might release these on our site 1st.

Duonger

Did you guys give Charlie and John vanilla-review sticks or those are just first random kits from the shelf?

Also, It would be awesome to see you here, Duonger, drop by here more often

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