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    set tref to auto
    all other settings to auto in ram timings except cas, trp, trcd and tras

    data drive at 7, data drive strength to 1
    bypass to 16
    it's never fast enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PicaXuu
    A friend of mine is having big trouble to get the Redline 4000 working at 250 2-2-2-5 with a 3500+ Caa2c...

    He have already tried bios 510-2 and 510-3 with these settings:

    2-2-5-2-7-15-2-2-2-2-3072-01-enb \ incrase scew-0-8-1-07.0-05.0-256-enb-16-7-dis8

    Everything he tried, he gets errors on Memtest Test 6...

    Any suggestions ???

    Thanks,
    don't use 510-anything, use the newest one (which was just posted above about), or use the old one 2-17, I haven't tested any other ones, so I'm only advising on what I know works (2-17), and other ppl have been getting the new bios to work. Also, what I haven't heard, anyone else getting any other bios to work, so........ have fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by PicaXuu
    A friend of mine is having big trouble to get the Redline 4000 working at 250 2-2-2-5 with a 3500+ Caa2c...

    He have already tried bios 510-2 and 510-3 with these settings:

    2-2-5-2-7-15-2-2-2-2-3072-01-enb \ incrase scew-0-8-1-07.0-05.0-256-enb-16-7-dis8

    Everything he tried, he gets errors on Memtest Test 6...

    Any suggestions ???

    Thanks,
    drive strength is wrong try 5 and 2

    here is all my settings@ 265 3.4volts

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiff
    I cant believe it

    I flashed to 618-2 What can I say it WORKS

    I am eating humble pie, I have said all the way along that this is a chip issue looks like I have been proved wrong.

    This wasnt a cold boot problem as Ram crashed while pc was idle, i tryed every trick in the book to get this stick to work. When I reflashed to the above bios bang back to 265 @ 3.4 volts.

    Sorry OCZ and Mushkin for being a doubting Thomas, at least I wasnt totaly wrong I did say that Voltage spikes arent killing Ram
    Where can i get this ? 618-2 ? Bios ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
    Where can i get this ? 618-2 ? Bios ??

    big thx
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    Big Thx

    maybe my sticks will get alive again with this Bios. will let u know.
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    Don't know if many have seen this yet but the 5x512Mb dual pack of the redline pc4000 is only $189 at Newegg

    Ordered myself a gig last night

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    wish my friend could order them
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    Could sb tell me if Mushkin Redline has Aluminium or Copper Heat Sink?

    i couldn't find that info anywhere, but i'd like to know, cause i have some copper HS at home and i don't know if i sell them or not.

    don't have rams yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbogorgon
    Could sb tell me if Mushkin Redline has Aluminium or Copper Heat Sink?

    i couldn't find that info anywhere, but i'd like to know, cause i have some copper HS at home and i don't know if i sell them or not.

    don't have rams yet.
    Aluminum

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    Quote Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
    Aluminum
    thx man,i thought so, cause copper isn't that frequently painted red.
    but that's kinda bad, but on the other hand good, i could use my heatsinks.

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    Just wondering,

    Has anyone with a Zippy/Emacs or a pc power and cooling experienced random UTT death?

    I wonder if it could be psu related at least in part....
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    Quote Originally Posted by computerpro3
    Just wondering,

    Has anyone with a Zippy/Emacs or a pc power and cooling experienced random UTT death?

    I wonder if it could be psu related at least in part....
    as far as I know, UTT death is from too much voltage, and the IC unable to handle it... CH cant handle the same as BH, and im sure not 100% of the BH can handle 3.6v like the old stuff, so PSU shouldn't have much of an effect, aside from steady rails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez
    as far as I know, UTT death is from too much voltage, and the IC unable to handle it... CH cant handle the same as BH, and im sure not 100% of the BH can handle 3.6v like the old stuff, so PSU shouldn't have much of an effect, aside from steady rails.
    The steady rails is what I was wondering about; more specifically the golden rule of always keping the lines <200mv above vdimm less LARGE and RAPID fluctuations. The majority of psu's dont practice 1% regulation, even if they are spec'd for it, and I'm wondering if rapid vdimm fluctuation resulting from rail fluctuation could have something to do with it.

    PCP&C and Zippy simply don't fluctuate, and I don't recall seeing anyone with those psu's have a death, so It was just something that dawned on me....
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    Actually... PS can have an effect... particularly when it comes to noise and noise spikes (or the absence there of), when you're running something on the edge.

    Regarding root cause of most UTT deaths... jury is still out. Some were initially thought to be dead because of the cold bug issue... some were likely killed due to the DIMM slots being powered at cold-boot on DFI nF4 before the MB is turned on and peeps swapping memory in that condition -- especially when faced with the no-boot cold-boot issue because of the low Vmem being applied (fixed in BIOSes 61x)... some were likely killed because peeps applied V to them like they were old school BH5... I suspect there are even some that might have had the data I/O pads fried due to too tight timings on Rd-Wr turnarounds... then there are some that are yet unknown...

    Peace

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    for god sake radek this is WRONG THREAD !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEDY
    for god sake radek this is WRONG THREAD !!!
    and its extremely hard to read that screenshot.
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    Sorry folks. ;] I made a mistake... forgive me. ;]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack
    Mine do 250MHz 1.5-2-2-8 @ 3,3V real, Memtest no errors and 270MHz 1.5-2-2-8 @ 3,5V real pifast stable

    it seems almost everybody is doing 250MHz @ 3,3V and at least 260MHz with more volts.
    unlucky me, stuck at 240Mhz, getting memory read errors at 250Mhz in chessmaster
    2-2-2-5-7-15 timings
    I'll risk using this 618-2 bios, maybe
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanMaster
    unlucky me, stuck at 240Mhz, getting memory read errors at 250Mhz in chessmaster
    2-2-2-5-7-15 timings
    I'll risk using this 618-2 bios, maybe
    what ldt multi? please post the rest of the options in the dfi bios order and ill see if i can help. also, voltages for everything in the system

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanMaster
    unlucky me, stuck at 240Mhz, getting memory read errors at 250Mhz in chessmaster
    2-2-2-5-7-15 timings
    I'll risk using this 618-2 bios, maybe
    yes, like stealth said, show us your A64tweakers settings and give us your Data strenght settings. Which mem slots are you using, orange or yellow?

    Give us more info and we'll help you out

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    I would greatly appreciate the help.
    At 240Mhz I use these settings:
    YELLOW memory slots
    LDT/FSB 4x
    LDT BUS 16/16
    PCI EXPRESS 105Mhz
    CPU VID START/CPU VID 1.425v
    SPECIAL VID CONTROL 110%
    LDT 1.4v
    CHIPSET 1.6v
    DRAM 3.2v
    DISABLED 0.3v setting
    timings: as appear in the BIOS 2 2 5 2 7 14 2 2 2 2 auto auto enabled auto 0 auto auto 7ns 6ns 16 cycles disabled 8x 4x disabled(8 bursts)
    I have used the same but with looser timings and a higher DRAM at 250Mhz which failed.
    Last edited by PanMaster; 06-28-2005 at 07:21 AM.
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    some things you could try

    1. Set Idle Cycle Limit to 256.
    2. LTD to 3x
    3.+0.03V to Enable

    what are your drive strength settings?
    and which bios are you using now?

    I'm using the orange slots, since they gave me more stability at higher clocks

    did you try JNav89GT's settings?

    Quote Originally Posted by JNav89GT
    set tref to auto
    all other settings to auto in ram timings except cas, trp, trcd and tras
    try idle cycle of 16
    try drive strength of 7 and data drive strenght of 1 on bios 510-2
    tras of 6
    Last edited by Jack; 06-28-2005 at 07:37 AM.

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