TCCD has been discontinued

[bias_hjorth]

All hail DH-5!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me wonders if OPK has DH-5...

Makes me wonder what you are talking about.

DH-5
OPK

Care to elaborate?

[trakslacker]

i believe he means OnePageBook, and the mystery RAM that he picked up a while ago.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=52117

[drcrawn]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/02...s_6118242.html


a bit more on XDR. Looks like it will find its way into PS3. Rambus lives!

[I(illa Bee]

Makes me wonder what you are talking about.

DH-5
OPK

Care to elaborate?

im sorry, i ment OPB...I Think i typed OPK thinking of the operation peace keeper mod for BFV... OPK, lol sorry, damm acronyms

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=52117

[madgamer]

One thing that puzzles me is in that samsung press report linked on the 1st page, it says that xdr is more than 10x faster than ddr400 and more than 5x faster than pc800 RD ram. I had pc 800 RD ram in an old p4 for a while and it was a hell of a lot slower than any ddr 400, much less any nice overclocked tccd (since were on the topic here). Am I mistaken? I was thinking pc800 rdram was for a 400mhz fsb p4, and 1066 rd ram was for 533mhz fsb p4's before they went 2.4c etc with the 800mhz fsb and ddr400. Oh well, it stinks that theres no more tccd, but I would immagine that there will be some form of replacment (in one form or another) before the whole DDR era is over.

[Ref]

What timings will XDR RAM have? Hopefully not CL30-40-40-80

[Apoptosis]

I just want to let everyone in this thread know that Legit Reviews has published an article dealing with the Samsung TCCD issue. In the Article they have comments from OCZ, Kingston, Corsair, and Mushkin dealing with the situation.

The article can be found here: http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=161



Looks like we can all sit back and relax because TCCD's are here for months and months.

Also they have a quote from Ryan the CEO of OCZ saying that Samsung has cut production back. This goes against what Big Toe said (who is an employee of OCZ) about them stopping production all together.

[Geforce4ti4200]

god will I have to buy the best tccd I can get before its gone and anyone with any left wants like 500 bucks a gig?

[Geforce4ti4200]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...231-008&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...231-006&depa=0

why is the la $30 more and its only rated pc3200 while the le is pc4400? I bet the le can also do pc3200 clocks at 2-2-2-5 but I want 290+ 1:1 t1 at 2.5-3-3-x when I go venice. seeing that samsung is discountinuing their tccd line, I must act quick before tccd prices shoot thru the roof and supplies dry up. I can keep my patriot but I can only achieve ~250fsb. It is most likley my ondie controller but I can play it safe and ebay this patriot and pay the few extra $ for gskill and ill be guaranteed at least 275 1:1 with venice. I am tempted to go for the le unless the la is constantly better, like ddr600 at 2.7v t1 2.5-3-3-x itll also prove once and for all if my winchester is limting me or not but ill go Venice once they come out. Please tell me what I should do.

1. keep the patriot and take a chance that tccd wont jump to $400+ and also take a chance and hope my patriot does 275+ in my venice
2. get gskill Le for $262
3. get gskill La for $292(tell me why)

[MaxxxRacer]

Its open season on the Samsung Executives, thats all I got to say.

[Geforce4ti4200]

ok I am going with the le, its much better. $30 cheaper, 2.5-3-3 and t1 timing. The la does do 300fsb(if your ondie controller is good enough) but at 3-4-4 and t2 it would be way slower than the le. 2x256mb arent an option for me as I need the gig for gaming. so its either I keep my patriot and hope it does high when I get venice or get gskill which most likley will just be wasted with the winchester till I go venice. I could wait till I go venice but wont gskill be like $400 by then?

[kryptobs2000]

One thing that puzzles me is in that samsung press report linked on the 1st page, it says that xdr is more than 10x faster than ddr400 and more than 5x faster than pc800 RD ram. I had pc 800 RD ram in an old p4 for a while and it was a hell of a lot slower than any ddr 400, much less any nice overclocked tccd (since were on the topic here). Am I mistaken? I was thinking pc800 rdram was for a 400mhz fsb p4, and 1066 rd ram was for 533mhz fsb p4's before they went 2.4c etc with the 800mhz fsb and ddr400. Oh well, it stinks that theres no more tccd, but I would immagine that there will be some form of replacment (in one form or another) before the whole DDR era is over.

rdram I think was 32bit while running at 800mhz, pc3200 ddr is 64bit while running at 400mhz. So they are about the same speed, or rather, same bandwidth. ddr is usually faster for a few other reasons, one is you can have tighter timings, not sure how much tigher, and this isn't the whole reason why it's better, and I'm not sure if I'm 100% accurate.

But this makes me wonder, I'd like to see some actual numbers rather than this is x times faster than this, that dosn't mean too much.

[Susquehannock]

Bh5 / 6 was very very long on the market before they took it of. Tccd has been here a while now to.

True, but the newer revision TCCD have only been around for a few months.

Glad I got the Gskill when I did. Not really as they dropped by over $30
not two weeks after I bought mine. Such is the nature of PC hardware.
By the time it comes to market they already have two better products lined up.

[Kunaak]

kinda annoying that samsung can do this.
purposefully stop producing TCCD to push DDR2 (which no one seems to be buying anyways) to almost force the market to a direction they want it to go...
seems kinda shady if you ask me.
especially since DDR2 is basically intel stuff, and intel is doing so poorly with thier attempts with DDR2 on the market so far...

[Entity_Razer]

Can't another company lisence TCCD technology and just produce it themselves?

[blinky]

kinda annoying that samsung can do this.
purposefully stop producing TCCD to push DDR2 (which no one seems to be buying anyways) to almost force the market to a direction they want it to go...
seems kinda shady if you ask me.
especially since DDR2 is basically intel stuff, and intel is doing so poorly with thier attempts with DDR2 on the market so far...

exactly, but i mean.... theres more money in it for them in ddr2 cuz they can charge more for new technology

[Susquehannock]

exactly, but i mean.... theres more money in it for them in ddr2 cuz they can charge more for new technology

How true.

[NiCKE^]

Have you guys been reading this? http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=161&pid=1

[fareastgq]

I'd get some TM SP over tccd any day anyway. I never thought tccd was that big of a deal.

[Gokou]

kinda annoying that samsung can do this.
purposefully stop producing TCCD to push DDR2 (which no one seems to be buying anyways) to almost force the market to a direction they want it to go...
seems kinda shady if you ask me.
especially since DDR2 is basically intel stuff, and intel is doing so poorly with thier attempts with DDR2 on the market so far...

if amd wants to stop making cpu's tomorrow they can. if ford want to stop making cars tomorrow - they can.
tbh if any of you were on the board and it was a "well we can stop making this ram, which only a small group of overclockers use.... or we can make the move into DDR2 which a huge company called Intel with a huge customer called Dell are using" situation - what would you do?

....

Sometimes a lot of you guys fail to see past your own nose. These are multi-billon dollar companies and the overclocking market - should it fall dead tomorrow - wont dent them.
Also if TCCD ceases to exist, the world wont end. Its not great news, but I wouldnt put it up there with when BH-5 went and there was nothing else in its place. At least now you have the OCZ VX and prolly some other ram waiting in the wings.

Chill out

[Ref]

What timings will XDR RAM have? Hopefully not CL30-40-40-80

Anyone knows?

[Craig]

I just don't see this as anywhere near as big a deal as some in this thread are making it.

UTT is at hand, so it's not like when Winbond stopped making memory.

And as BH5 is showing so well in the new NF4 boards many of us have no need for new RAM anyway.

By the time a rig with a gig of BH5, TCCD or UTT in a DFI NF II MB with a good vid card of your choice needs replaced then Samsung may well have out this new XDR memory into channel. Such a present day high end rig won't be at the top of the ORB in a year, but it will still be faster than the crap Dell is shipping then will be.

At which point RAM may not be a bottleneck for a while. I say "may not" cause who knows what's going to happen in the area of CPU's and chipsets meantime.

I'm expecting to build a new rig in a few months, and I expect I'll use a gig of BH5 in it.

[ZL1]

HOLY CRAP !!! ...NO WAY .... THE FUTURE IS XDR !!!!

THE SAME DAY THAT ANNOUCE THE END OF TCCD, THEY ANNOUNCE THIS ON THEIR WEBSITE:

SAMSUNG Electronics Goes into Mass Production of the World’s Fastest Memory for Multimedia Applications

I just hope it can OC !!!

Perkam

WOW
so the way I see it, its not only TCCD we should be saying good bye to, but also DDR2
and DDR2 had an even shorter run, if you compare DDR2vsDDR (not to mention SDR) and TCCDvsBH5 (or others)

I gotta say WOW again, man this would be so sweet, like someone mentioned earlier, running ram at 1:1 with the proc's cache would be maddddddddddness !!! (aka sweeeeeeeetness )

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