i did the vdroop thing...i think i may have put too much on or something...anyway i didnt like what it did so i meths'ed it off
i did the vdroop thing...i think i may have put too much on or something...anyway i didnt like what it did so i meths'ed it off
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after a few tries of rubbing excess pencil or applying more, i manage to get it almost 0 or 0.01 droop which is stable for me att.
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Mobo: Asus P5k Deluxe
Cooler: TRUE 120 (150cfm Delta)
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2xHR-09
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Vid: HIS 4850
HDD: 80Gb 16mb Cache Raptor
500Gb 7200.11 Seagate
PSU: Enermax Noisetaker 600w
Case: Thermaltake Armor (4x120mm 104CFM Panaflo)
3dmark06: 16k
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RIG 2: Foxconn BloodRage X58
E8600 Q820A349 @ 4.75Ghz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=596270
RIG 1: Asus Rampage Extreme X48
RIG 2: Foxconn BloodRage X58
E8600 Q820A349 @ 4.75Ghz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=596270
Vcore mod is so that the voltages you set in bios are closer to the actual voltage the board puts out (and you can increase beyond bios voltage limitations)
Vdroop is to eliminate or reduce the amount of voltage difference seen on most asus boards ( ) between load and idle.
Hope that helps.
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oh...yes i've noticed .02v droop typical between load and idle....(no pencil mod)
as for when i put pencil on the vdroop resistor (or whatever that thing is) i couldnt get the same oc at the vcore i had before????
maybe i'll try it again...but onle having 0.02v droop maybe i dont need it?
what does the pencil mod for vcore actually do? shunt more v's to core ? i dont know?
i currently can get more v's than i need because cpu heat is the limiting factor for me atm (without the p mod)....but i thought that a droop mod might lower the actual volts required to set the vcore at .....0.01 to .02 volts isnt going to help me with my coretemps...
although i'm sure pmods would be helpful to many who have bad droop and or need more vcore.
i like your revised pics; they are very clear.
Last edited by adamsleath; 03-16-2007 at 06:43 PM.
i7 3610QM 1.2-3.2GHz
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RIG 2: Foxconn BloodRage X58
E8600 Q820A349 @ 4.75Ghz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=596270
Im a noob
I just bought the pencil 2B to make this mod. I have marked several lines over those two resistors and nothing changes. I still have 1.45000 in BIOS and 1.42 in windows. 1.42 in idle.
Im a suppose keep marking them or draw around them or do something that Im not doing?
dont draw around them.
i7 3610QM 1.2-3.2GHz
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RIG 2: Foxconn BloodRage X58
E8600 Q820A349 @ 4.75Ghz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=596270
Well, I dont think I can get teh 4B pencil right now. Although, I kept trying, my Vcore voltage was raising to 1.44v, still going down to 1.42v sometimes while doing 3 mins orthos. Decided to turn off the pc and keep marking, now it will stay in 1.42v. Gonna try couple more times.
BTW, is the vCore resistor suppose to have more marks than the vdroop resistor or the other way? or should I just mark both the same?
Im tired now. Couldnt get my BIOS voltage (1.45), sometimes after I mark the resistors it will show 1.44 but it would go down to 1.42 every 3 mins for like 10 seconds.
I think I will be getting that 4B pencil. I also heard that 8B pencil is the best for pencil mods. Which one should I get?
Also, I have a question, Am I suppose to make the pencil marks really dark? I mean applying some strength to the resistor so the pencil mark will be really dark.
Slim,
You better be using a multimeter to measure those voltages or else you might as well just throw those readings out the window. BIOS readings are total crap.
And why the hell do I still have vdroop on my P5N-E
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Dam, so I would have to get that multimeter anyways :S
This is getting too complicated. I really wanted to fix this vcore issue
A multimeter is like $20 and is really easy to use. Stick the black end in the black molex wire and touch the red end to the vcore reading point.
Coming from someone who just did his first vmod ^
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Hey Kobalt, looks like you are willing to help me. Thanks man, I really apppreciate that.
Now I do want to go and buy that multimeter. I still didnt get what you meant with "black molex wire". Could you please explain me what wire you mean.
Also I have some questions regarding the vdroop mod.
1) Do I have to make a darker mark on either the vcore or the vdroop? or it doesnt matter?
2) How dark or strong do I have to make the marks on the resistors? Do I need to apply some kind of strenght?
Finally, what is the initial resistance of the vcore and vdroop resistors? this questions never got answered.
And according to Innedaname, you're supposed to take 100k off the vdroop and 50k for the vcore. Is this what Im suppose to do?
Thanks
You can't go by how dark the line is or anything like that, you have to use a multi-meter to measure what change you made penciling if you don't want to seriously risk killing your board. Get a meter and you can answer almost all of your questions. The black probe/lead on ther meter needs to be grounded, then you use the red probe/lead to check whatever your measuing.
A molex connector has 2 grounds, a 12v line, and a 5v line. Red = 5v, black = ground, and yellow=12v. When measuring voltage, you need to ground the black end and then use the red end to find the voltage. What this does is find the potential difference (aka voltage) from whatever you're touching to the ground. It's very practicle to stick the black end of the multimeter into the black female molex connector to ground it. Then you just need to worry about the other end making contact.
To measure resistance, you need to turn the system off and disconnect power. For the vdroop mod, just measure the original resistance (its 129.5k ohms on the P5N-E) and take it down in 10k ohm steps until you dont have vdroop anymore (smaller incriments as you get closer to near 0 vdroop). Don't worry about how hard or soft to make the marks...just make marks until you get your desired resistance. For vcore, just measure the original resistance and take it down in small incriments until you get your desired vcore raise.
It usually helps a lot to have the system out of a case.
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Hey thanks guys! I will try to get that stuff (4B pencil and multimeter) today to try this out.
Kobalt, everytime I make the pencil marks to the resistors, should the number (lets say 129.5) start going up or down in the multimeter?
Answer me this question and Ill be ready to go!
If for any reason I have any complication, Ill come and ask
I will have this as a reference "100k off the vdroop and 50k for the vcore"
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