Commando Results by Tony and Andre (and others...)

[situman]

Their 400 mobo has massive vdroop and none fullly workiing voltages. This board won't be any different. Who cares how fast the memory runs, Conroe doesn't need massive bandwidth. Fix the vdroop and their entire lineup of mobos is untouchable.

[bingo13]

Their 400 mobo has massive vdroop and none fullly workiing voltages. This board won't be any different. Who cares how fast the memory runs, Conroe doesn't need massive bandwidth. Fix the vdroop and their entire lineup of mobos is untouchable.

If they change the Vdroop parameters (which they would love to by the way) then they violate several engineering and license agreements with Intel. However, they are looking at a couple of ways around this in the next series of boards.

[Raja@ASUS]

I guess it also depends on which strap they manipulate to make that 1300mhz stable. So far the big numbers on the non intel chipsets have been a little misleading in terms of real world performance, especially when you get past certain fsb's (even using 1T).

regards
Raja

[Tony]

I will be testing all boards when i get home, i ONLY just got these boards so i have no concrete info as yet.

Please remember i work under NDA also and these are all ES sample boards. i will do my best to hard measure voltages so we see the truth behind what the boards are doing.

Please give me a few days, i wanted to bring XS the new boards to see so we have plenty to discuss, performance tests will come soon I promise

[Tony]

Added bios screen shots....click the original link for the voltage options etc.

[eva2000]

Added bios screen shots....click the original link for the voltage options etc.

wow 0.025v vdimm increments up to 3.375v vdimm.. talk about voiding your warranty LOL

Just got my Hipro maximizer for P5B Deluxe though

[Turtle 1]

Looks like a very interesting M/B . Really good for the Q-core parts with such high FSB O/clocking.

[El Snorro]

this might be my next board if it's priced well
And the RD600 isn't as horny as it was according to ATI marketing

[funkflix]

Tony, do u know when this mainboard will become retail? Maybe a few weeks?

[tictac]

yeah Have seen Abits new one too

AB9 QuadGT:
updated AB9 board, better layout. Supports Quad core, and has 2 PCIe 16x graphics slots (only 8x bandwidth to each). Has Silent OTES. Maybe uses ICH7R (instead of ICH8) to add IDE slot and 2 less SATA ports without using extra controller. This would help accomodate 2 PCIe 16x slots as well.

Quad GT...

digital PWM

[Johnny Bravo]

Tony any mention of GTL Reference Voltage control on the Asus, I noticed DFI have gone to the effort of giving direct BIOS control over it, or can it be manipulated via the FSB termination voltages on the Asus board?

[Tony]

I will have to check

[Heidfirst]

this is great news for those with crossfire.

if the abit QuadGT is setup to run dual x8 as suggested instead of x16+x4 that may be better for those with Crossfire ...

[Ehwaz001]

LOL....I have been playing with lots of toys here All of them are build purely for overclocking. .

God I want your job...
Any chance you will need an independent EU-Belgium reviewer? I'm in!

[Johnny Bravo]

I will have to check

Cheers will be of great help come the Quad cores

[JoeBar]

Tony, do u know when this mainboard will become retail? Maybe a few weeks?

I would like to know that also.

[webwilli]

have this board eSATA?

[Gambit_2K]

this is great news for those with crossfire.

Not for X1950 Pro users and future cards with the new crossfirebridges, as the 965 chipset doesn't support Crossfire with them. The chip lacks "internal writes".

[Turtle 1]

Not for X1950 Pro users and future cards with the new crossfirebridges, as the 965 chipset doesn't support Crossfire with them. The chip lacks "internal writes".

Yes and from what my wife's brother inlaw says(X ATI engineer now with Intel) This is part of the DoJ investagation in the graphics market. That why all three companies AMD/ATI/NV have to give information all the way back to 1990. Its not just about Graphics cards prices.

[rpr]

This sounds like my next board. I'm not happy with my P5W-DH. Keep us posted!

[bingo13]

Tony, do u know when this mainboard will become retail? Maybe a few weeks?

It is being officially launched at CES.

[Gambit_2K]

Yes and from what my wife's brother inlaw says(X ATI engineer now with Intel) This is part of the DoJ investagation in the graphics market. That why all three companies AMD/ATI/NV have to give information all the way back to 1990. Its not just about Graphics cards prices.

Hey if they they show up snooping around you never heard of me

I thought there actually was some technical issue that made the X1950 Pro with the new crossfirebridges and the 965 chipset incompatiblle. Atlest that's what the guys at firingsquad lead me to believe.

[Turtle 1]

Here's more on the new Intel chipset M/B. Here is a quote.

We were also informed that the upcoming enthusiast level Intel P965 motherboards from ASUS and Gigabyte among others should easily reach 550FSB levels with 500FSB being the minimum level of FSB overclocking capability. The manufacturers are very comfortable with the chipset now and the next wave of boards should show additional maturity in their designs. Of course, this comes right before the launch of BearLake in the spring so if you are currently using Intel be prepared for more growing pains with this new release.

http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2887

[argonmtt]

If they change the Vdroop parameters (which they would love to by the way) then they violate several engineering and license agreements with Intel. However, they are looking at a couple of ways around this in the next series of boards.

So the Vdrop is one of the trademark of intel chipset right??

[Turtle 1]

So the Vdrop is one of the trademark of intel chipset right??

Not sure I think its a Asus trade mark. But it has something to do with Intel agreements with m/b makers. If these boards hit 500fsb min. and can do 550 easily . What your point. I thought all the good O/C's were good with soldering iron. Its a 3min. fix. I don't see it as a chipset problem . If Intel limits the M/B manufactorers at some spec. I would like to see were that spec say voltage drop is required.

My P4s8x had large vdrop and thats not an intel chipset. My IC7-Max3 didn't drop cpu voltage but it was bad with memory V. The P4P800-E that I am using right now is set @ 1.5875. Yet the bios says 1.68-1.70 Now thats not an agreement with anybody. Thats just plain cheezey manufactoring. I could get the fluke out and test but its not worth the effort. What I will do is E-Mail Intel and ask why they have a spec that cause Vdrop. That they hold M/B makers to that causes instability in O/C conditions so they can sell the next generation Chipset.
Let them know it gives them a bad name in the enthusist community. I see what their reply might be.