Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4D..opinions please

[ChaosMinionX]

Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4D 2GB DDR2-800 XMS2-6400

This seems like a pretty decent kit for the price. I will be putting them in the ASUS 680i with an e6600 on water (possibly a 437w TEC if I decide to replace my peltier) and I hope to hit 3600mhz.

Does anyone have any experience with this exact kit or have a better suggestion for my price range. I found that kit for $273 after rebate and would rather not spend more than $400 for a 2gb kit.

I did a search but couldn't find anything related to this memory. I saw Bachus_Anonym's review of the 8888 kit, but that is way out of my price range for ram.

Input is appreciated

I actually have this kit, 4gbs of it actually. I can post screens of benches.

On a 24/7 setup I run 400x8 = 3.2ghz (e6600) with this ram at DDR2 800 (1:1) 4-4-3-4-2-20-3-9-5-9 (respectively based on p5bdlx) on 2.1v its excellent ram. it will run DDR2 1000 no problem just my board limits it (p5b dlx) id recommend it

EDIT: Correction I didnt see you were listing the dominator modules, but the ones I have are on newegg for like 350$

[Dredd]

I actually have this kit, 4gbs of it actually. I can post screens of benches.

On a 24/7 setup I run 400x8 = 3.2ghz (e6600) with this ram at DDR2 800 (1:1) 4-4-3-4-2-20-3-9-5-9 (respectively based on p5bdlx) on 2.1v its excellent ram. it will run DDR2 1000 no problem just my board limits it (p5b dlx) id recommend it

EDIT: Correction I didnt see you were listing the dominator modules, but the ones I have are on newegg for like 350$

It should be noted that your kit may be Micron D9 based while the one someone buys now will not. They stopped using D9 in this kit and now use Promos. You have to have an early revision of the memory for D9.

[Wired-HoH]

LMAO, I love how people read something on a random forum, assume it's 100% correct, then leap to their own assumptions, and assume even more!

Instead of assuming anything, why not ask CORSAIR?

The Official Corsair IC Inquiry Thread @ the House of Help

As of this posting, here's all of the 6400C4D sticks inquiried about so far:

CM2X1024-6400C4D XMS6404v2.1 0643019-3 = PROMOS 800MHZ, CL5, .09u 64Mx8
CM2X1024-6400C4D XMS6404v2.1 0644020-5 = PROMOS 667MHZ, CL5, .09u 64Mx8
CM2X1024-6400C4D XMS6404v2.2 0645284-8 = PROMOS 667MHZ, CL5, .09u 64Mx8
CM2X1024-6400C4D XMS6404v1.1 0645065-1 = Micron, 64Mx8, 2-533 CL4, Rev D

Note to the assumers: The dates they were made do not directly correlate to the version! For example, the last 2 sticks were made the same week.

[fhpchris]

Corsair is clearly aiming to confuse the consumer here, and sell cheap crap with "bling" for huge ammounts of money.

I would love for our corsair rep here to say that his "315$ PC2-6400 promos crap" is better than EVEN ONE OTHER manufacurer's ~300$ PC2-6400 kit.

You dont see them talking much about this.

[Dredd]

LMAO, I love how people read something on a random forum, assume it's 100% correct, then leap to their own assumptions, and assume even more!

Instead of assuming anything, why not ask CORSAIR?

The Official Corsair IC Inquiry Thread @ the House of Help

As of this posting, here's all of the 6400C4D sticks inquiried about so far:



Note to the assumers: The dates they were made do not directly correlate to the version! For example, the last 2 sticks were made the same week.

This is exactly what I said they use Promos now. You won't find any rev 1.1 at retail

[Dredd]

Corsair is clearly aiming to confuse the consumer here, and sell cheap crap with "bling" for huge ammounts of money.

I would love for our corsair rep here to say that his "315$ PC2-6400 promos crap" is better than EVEN ONE OTHER manufacurer's ~300$ PC2-6400 kit.

You dont see them talking much about this.

No, all they wanna post about is how they "sell the worlds fastest memory" well sure the Dominator 8888C4F is good, but if that's all your going to focus on making and relegating everything else to promos there's no value to be had there. Many memory manufactorers sell kits for under $300 that will overclock to the Dominator speeds/specs.

Who wants to pay $300+ for Promos when they can go to someone like Team or Crucial and get guranteed D9 kits under $300

[szukalski]

This is what you call a "Big Swifty".

It shoots the manufacturer in the foot. How can you build loyalty and a fan base with tricks like these?

Yay for capitalism and marketing, I feel sorry for any overclocker starting out and taking a gamble on what turns out to be Promos, way to ruin your experience.

[fhpchris]

How can you build loyalty and a fan base with tricks like these?

By selling fast products at a fair price? Look @ teamgroup, Crucial, and GSkill.

[HeadOn]

I think it was a rhetorical question regarding Corsair's Promos switchoff :P

[kemo]

By selling fast products at a fair price? Look @ teamgroup, Crucial, and GSkill.

Not all users cares about ICs and not all overclockers cares about ICs that why team is not that famous world wide although they only uses micron in all there ddr2

[-n7-]

LOL @ this Corsair joke.

I disliked them before...now let's just say i have even stronger feelings about them.

[Yellowbeard]

I certainly understand the desire to Micron ICs. However, we all know that they are in short supply. So, we build SOME parts with Promos ICs and make no secret of it. It is not trick and we don't hide the fact.

So I ask anyone here 2 things.

1. We sell a PC6400 part that runs at its rated speeds and timings. Ethicially speaking, what is the problem?

2. Where is it GUARANTEED by any memory company what IC you get when you buy memory?

C'mon guys, the conspiracy theories and lumping us in with IBM and Bill Gates is a bit thin.

[charlie]

So as of TODAY, which sticks are 100% D9??

[Yellowbeard]

HERE is the most current listing I have available to me.

[ElDuderino]

I popped the heatspreader off my firestix and they are D9GMH. I'm glad I didn't buy Dominators now, I spent $50 less and got Micron ICs. Thanks for the tips!

[fhpchris]

I certainly understand the desire to Micron ICs. However, we all know that they are in short supply. So, we build SOME parts with Promos ICs and make no secret of it. It is not trick and we don't hide the fact.

You could start by charging a "fair" price for this Promos memmory then, or even do somemthing like distinguish it apart from the "Micron Dominators"

So I ask anyone here 2 things.

1. We sell a PC6400 part that runs at its rated speeds and timings. Ethicially speaking, what is the problem?

The problem is that you are trying to pass this stuff off as Micron to noobies, or possibly trying to pass it off as performing like micron to people who have no clue what ICs are or how ram works.

The average user sees the same heatspreaders on this ~300$ ram as on your 600$ ram and assumes that they perform the same because 300$ is still alot to spend on ram.

You get Gskill HZ, you get micron, you get Teamgroup, you get micron, you get Cellshock, you get micron. you get Mushkin blackline, you get micron.

See anything in common here? I think you guys are the only manufacturer that actually TRIES to trick users into buying that crap.

2. Where is it GUARANTEED by any memory company what IC you get when you buy memory?

See above, all the time.

3xx$ Mushkin blackline = micron
teamgroup = Micron
cellshock = micron
Gskill HZ = micron
firestickx = micron
3xx$ OCZ platinum = micron

You should apologize for even asking that question here.

C'mon guys, the conspiracy theories and lumping us in with IBM and Bill Gates is a bit thin.

You DO try to confuse noobies and overcharge for everything, so yes, it is your fault. You should change what is wrong with your company (even an xtreme Legend has no clue WTF you use Micron on, how will some noob?) and then come back.

I REALLY hate to cite Mushkin for doing good things, and even they are not confusing on what you are getting.

Oh yea, guess what IC are in 300$ Ballistix, seems really really hard

[kemo]

You could start by charging a "fair" price for this Promos memmory then, or even do somemthing like distinguish it apart from the "Micron Dominators"




The problem is that you are trying to pass this stuff off as Micron to noobies, or possibly trying to pass it off as performing like micron to people who have no clue what ICs are or how ram works.

The average user sees the same heatspreaders on this ~300$ ram as on your 600$ ram and assumes that they perform the same because 300$ is still alot to spend on ram.

You get Gskill HZ, you get micron, you get Teamgroup, you get micron, you get Cellshock, you get micron. you get Mushkin blackline, you get micron.

See anything in common here? I think you guys are the only manufacturer that actually TRIES to trick users into buying that crap.



See above, all the time.

3xx$ Mushkin blackline = micron
teamgroup = Micron
cellshock = micron
Gskill HZ = micron
firestickx = micron
3xx$ OCZ platinum = micron

You should apologize for even asking that question here.



You DO try to confuse noobies and overcharge for everything, so yes, it is your fault. You should change what is wrong with your company (even an xtreme Legend has no clue WTF you use Micron on, how will some noob?) and then come back.

I REALLY hate to cite Mushkin for doing good things, and even they are not confusing on what you are getting.

Oh yea, guess what IC are in 300$ Ballistix, seems really really hard

Please fhpchris he is just corsair representative you cant blame him for what the company doing if you don’t like it don’t buy from them and the company didn’t advertise that product as D9 so it is not their fault
Please take it easy

[ElDuderino]

I personally don't buy memory until I have seen how well they overclock. I read a review about Corsair's Dominators and they seemed to overclock pretty well. i was going to buy them and hope to reach a comparable overclock as most were getting. BUT, if I receive a product that is totally different from the first revision that shipped, how can I expect to achieve the same or even get near to the overclocks that others saw with the Micron ICs?

I don't think you should come on to this "xtreme" forum and rebut this by stating that your Promo IC memory does in fact run at the specified timings, and you don't guarantee anything more than that.

The whole point of this thread was to find a good set of ram that overclocks well, so I can buy ram that overclocks well enough to get close to the specs of RAM that costs twice as much.

[kemo]

@ ElDuderino
Can you please take a picture for you ram with the ICs on it (include both the naked ICs and part of the heat spreader) so we can officially include it in the ram list to avoid any more arguments
If it is already installed never mind

[ElDuderino]

My firestix are already in the list as being D9GMH

[GrimReaper]

I agree with fhpchris here

the first batch of it was micron which performed very well and these were the samples that was sent to all the reviewers and websites..So anyone wanting to buy this ram NOW will look up some review and see how well it overclocks only to find out the ram they buy now has some cheap promos crap that doesnt overclock at all.. It looks exactly like the one in the review sounds like the one in the review but its not the same thing anymore.
I wouldnt want or buy memory with promos chips for sure.. unless its priced a lot less than the competition who gives D9s for the same price or lower

G.skill started with the Elpida chips on their 2gbhz and latter on moved microns.

[kemo]

My firestix are already in the list as being D9GMH

those are 2X512 kits all the D9 thing was based on contacting buffalo and people guessing

[fhpchris]

I agree with fhpchris here

the first batch of it was micron which performed very well and these were the samples that was sent to all the reviewers and websites..So anyone wanting to buy this ram NOW will look up some review and see how well it overclocks only to find out the ram they buy now has some cheap promos crap that doesnt overclock at all.. It looks exactly like the review sample sound like the review sample but its not the same thing anymore.
I wouldnt want or buy memory with promos chips for sure.. unless its priced a lot less than the competition who gives D9s

G.skill started with the Elpida chips on their 2gbhz and latter on moved microns.

It is like going down to the local dealership to buy a Corvette. It looks like a Corvette, but what if Chevy shipped a "second revision" that had a 200hp V6 under the hood, but still cost ~50,000$ USD. They do not tell anyone, and you are not allowed to test drive or pop the hood before you buy.

I would feel pretty crappy that I spent 50K$ to get a certain level of performance, and I got less than half of what I was expecting. I wanted a Corvette because it was fast, because it was..well...a Corvette.
What happens when Corsair starts putting DHX stuff on promos is like Chevy making a Malibu look like a Corvette, they might look the same, but they are not the same at all...

Think about it, some of the Car audio amplifiers I have migiht be rated @ 450W RMS, but include an inspection sheet from the factory showing that it was tested capable of 515W RMS @ 12.0x volts and a 4 ohm load

I don't think you should come on to this "xtreme" forum and rebut this by stating that your Promo IC memory does in fact run at the specified timings, and you don't guarantee anything more than that.

The whole point of this thread was to find a good set of ram that overclocks well, so I can buy ram that overclocks well enough to get close to the specs of RAM that costs twice as much.

Yep. Do you honestly think people buy 8500C5s, 5400UL, 8000UL, 6400C3, or 8888C4 to run "stock"

Clearly not over here @ XS

[matsuya]

Hearing all this about Corsair, I'm trying to figure out if I should cancel my order on the 8500C5D's. I currently have G.Skill HZ's. I have a QX6700 on the Striker 680i.

[Wired-HoH]

I certainly understand the desire to Micron ICs. However, we all know that they are in short supply. So, we build SOME parts with Promos ICs and make no secret of it. It is not trick and we don't hide the fact.

You could start by charging a "fair" price for this Promos memmory then, or even do somemthing like distinguish it apart from the "Micron Dominators"

uummmm..... W H Y? It doesn't matter what ICs they use! Yes, I fully understand that some enthusiasts look for certain ICs to maximize their potential / chance for high OCs, but they are selling a product that meets certain specs (timings / speed / voltage). They guarantee those settings, not the possiblity of how high they may go over that.

The problem is that you are trying to pass this stuff off as Micron to noobies, or possibly trying to pass it off as performing like micron to people who have no clue what ICs are or how ram works.

Again, they are not. Refer to previous statement. Nowhere do they state that a specific part # is made ONLY with a specific IC, with only one or 2 exceptions IIRC.

The average user sees the same heatspreaders on this ~300$ ram as on your 600$ ram and assumes that they perform the same because 300$ is still alot to spend on ram.

If the average user doesn't READ the packaging specs, that's no one's fault but their own. Caveat Emptor.

Please post links where a memory manufacturer states on their webpage that they guarantee that a specific part # is made only with a specific IC. In otherwords, you can go to a store, ask for that part # (no version BS unless it's considered a separate part / SKU / whatever), and be guaranteed that it has a specific IC.

Note that there's nothing wrong with them doing this of course, I've just never seen it. If they do in fact do it, then recommend that memory instead of pointing fingers whenever a manufacturer chooses to use multiple ICs so that their consumers can purchase the part now instead of waiting for the ICs to come in / get binned / etc.

Like kemo said (and I'm paraphrasing a bit here), Corsair made no claims as to them using a specific IC exclusively in any of their advertising or forum posts in the Dominator series, and has even gone to the extent of answering IC inquiries on their forum for those who are wanting to know what ICs their sticks do use. They are not hiding anything, you just have to ASK.


A bit off-topic, but that ram list has listed incorrect information for some time concerning Corsair memory. It assumes part # + version # = IC, which IT DOES NOT! I've PM'd the author of that thread multiple times in the past, and gotten a response once IIRC, but it hasn't been updated at all. For the sake of your readers, PLEASE post a link to the IC Inquiry Thread, which is updated by Corsair, so that they have 100% correct information.