so if the ceiling is 6-6.5GHz on ln2 AMD reclaims the world record for performance... if they start hitting 4-4.5GHz on air, I will be impressed. with any luck they will.
so if the ceiling is 6-6.5GHz on ln2 AMD reclaims the world record for performance... if they start hitting 4-4.5GHz on air, I will be impressed. with any luck they will.
problem with your statement there is that AMD will be sold bugged much like the other ones due to that inbuilt memory controller unless you know something i don'tOriginally Posted by xlink
i seriously doubt anything on the current k8 architecture will scale that high withough 2-3V seriously doubt it.
juust saying it would be nice...
If I could get to 3.2GHz (w/ x10 multi) on water with the 65nm K8 I'll be happy!
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You just answered all my questions.Originally Posted by dinos22
I have 2 939 boards 1 Opteron and an X2 and a drawer full of DDR.
dino I might have takin' the post wrong and I don't think you know this but i'm a Chicago Cubs fan, I'll wait till next year.
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I meant COLD bugged ROFL
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Will this 65nm beat conroe E6300?
What beats the e6300? It's probable that withing the year AMD will offer something on 90nm that outperformes the e6300 (atleast at stock).Originally Posted by Caubecari
I don't think this question should be asked here, as you can be sure that if anyone knows, they still won't tell us untill NDA is over.
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Well we don't know that for sure, remember 130nm K8's had no problems under the cold.Originally Posted by dinos22
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I don't think that's possible, higher clocks probably but beating Conroe not, at least not till K8L (that's what we all hope, bringing Intel back on the second place )Originally Posted by dimasdw
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but they didnt have an integrated memory controller. thats what we all think causes the coldbug.Originally Posted by Squid_Spit
i dont care much about 65nm, i just want to see some K8L action.
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ALL K8's have an integrated memory controller.
S754 haven'tOriginally Posted by Mats
You're forgetting the FX-55, 130 nm, 2.6 GHz. The transition to dual core could be the reason for the small speed bump, even though single cores aren't much better. What I'm trying to say is that AMD possibly could have done some tweaking and reached even higher GHz if the world still was single core only, but the dual cores became high priority and they had to take a different road. Just speculating.Originally Posted by Biggles
I think you're talking about revision G, Revision F is the current one, Windsor, Orleans.....Originally Posted by Biggles
Yes THEY DO!Originally Posted by Gam3Ra
What are you talking about? You should do your homework before you post.
Everybody knows that 754 got a single channel memory controller, and that the 939 got a dual channel memory controller.
Realy.. sorry, I don't read all, I was reading does all K8 have DC memcontrolerOriginally Posted by Mats
I tell you why.Originally Posted by _33
It's because 754 and 939 both use DDR RAM, so all they had to do was to put the Venice core in a 754 package, not really hard to do.
They can't do the same with a Windsor/Orleans (DDR2) core in a 939 (DDR) package. The only way would be to die shrink a DDR core to 65 nm, which is too expensive and just won't happen.
99% certain that it's not the imc that causes the cold bug. why else would the >1:1 ratios work for getting ram speed higher than the limited htt on s939 cold bugged chips?
methinks it's SOI's fault
Got a fan over those memory sticks? No? Well get to it before you kill them
im pretty sure its the IMC
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They will not be the same. 65nm amds have slightly different construction then the 90nm K8's. They enhanced them to do higher clock speeds. Check out the load buffers, a extra decoder and so on. 3 main parts have been modified or added onto. Segesting what AMD clames, they did exactly what they needed with these modifications. We will see a Ghz war with AMD afterall.
Note the 65nm Rev G AMD has extra parts in it that don't exist in the 90nm rev F that go beyond even this, more transistors, extra stages, whatever comes with making a cpu able to gane Ghz.
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would be good to see that >>>> GHz fight = AMD wins
Man I so hope that's true you're talking about, I want to see some 3.5GHz AMD on waterOriginally Posted by Serge84
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http://129.15.202.185/athlon_rev_g/6...hancements.jpg
That looks like the K8L picture. I believe the 65nm chips are just shrinks until K8L arrives.
neh, don't stoop to their level i really hope that 65nm clocks better, seeing as 90nm should have clocked waaaay higherOriginally Posted by arisythila
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