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    Dual-Cascade Project (56K warning)

    I bought this device at an auction, a used Flexi-Cool® Immersion Cooler, a self-contained, dual cascade system:






    This device is meant to dip a cold probe into a liquid and chill it. I thought that rather than use at as a chiller, both inefficient and unwieldy, I'd enlist Chilly1 to put one of his vaunted evaporator heads on it:



    So I sent it to Chilly, and he broke it open and sent me some pics:




    Chilly reported the following about the unit:
    - It has totally flammable gasses.
    - R1270 first
    - R1150 plus R290 second
    - Compressors are 8.5 CC danfoss R12 compressors.
    So I had Chilly put on one of his blocks (Chilly can add his worklog and pics later when he gets his technical issues worked out).

    Here's what arrived on a pallet:







    Notice that Chilly was nice enough to include a thermocouple, complete with fluke connector:



    First fire-up, took a few minutes for second compressor to turn on:



    For preliminary test results, see post #2.
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    realy nice dude!

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    This unit is rated for about 110W. Not enough for my 560J, but just right for my X800XT PE. So, time to strap it on.

    Chilly sends all of his creations with a selection of mounting hardware:



    I of course chose the tiny oval meant for ATI cards.

    Time for seal string!



    Here it is with some seal string. The connector coating on the card was pre-existing for a peltier:



    Backside:



    Now add some Armaflex (lots of it):




    More Armaflex:



    Yet more Armaflex, leaving room for soft-mods. I don't know why I left the ram sinks on. They were hard to take off, so I said screw it. They get really cold when the unit is operating, so they are now cold sinks.



    Not to be overlooked or underestimated, the almighty cling wrap:




    And of course, dielectric grease for the AGP connector:



    Ready for benching:




    We're gonna need a bigger desk (the hose is 6 feet long, so I can stick the cascade in various places):



    Unfortunately, I haven't had a lot of time for benching, but preliminary numbers are -85C at idle, 736 benchable core on 1.83 volts, up from about 660 on straight water (742 fails in middle of 3DMark). Can Riva test at 780. I need to bump up the volts to about 1.9v and do some benching on a cold night to see what she can do. A Vapo and a dual cascade really heats up the room!

    After I am done benching the video card, I'd like to try it on a Pentium-M with one of those 478 adapters.

    Thanks to Chilly1 for his great work.
    Last edited by uclajd; 04-04-2005 at 03:33 AM.
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    WOW ! cool and scary

    by the way "cling wrap" ? sorry if its a dumb question


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    seran wrap. self stick stuff used to keep food fresh.
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    wow nice
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    Nice Job JD!!! That is some crazy stuff!!!!
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    Would it be possible to regas it for a higher capacity, 200W+?
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    That looks great!
    Thanks for posting your insulation. I'll be doing the same.
    Did you put some nail polish or dialectric grase on the heat sinks and the area were the vmods go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by afireinside
    seran wrap. self stick stuff used to keep food fresh.
    I meant why ?


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    Again i'll say, AWESOME! was this a cascade that you bought somewhere and then sent it to chilly's to be modded with his block? If so, was it expensive to buy the unit? I'd be interested in somethng like this for my cpu as my future plan is to have a cascade hopefully one day i've never seen a cascade setup that wasn't custom built.

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    i guess i should have read the post instead of just looking at the pics and then asking if it was a commercial unit, that answers my question about it being sent to chillys to be modded with his block, sorry lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZL1
    I meant why ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by matt9669
    Adds another layer of insulation
    is it a must ?

    Im just being curious as this is the first time I see it


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZL1
    is it a must ?

    Im just being curious as this is the first time I see it


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    I don't think it's a must, but it could be useful. I will use it not only for extra protection but to keep dust away.
    You can also read this thread; it mentions the use of saran wrap
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    Did you put some nail polish or dialectric grase on the heat sinks and the area were the vmods go?
    Nope, just some clear tape, then cling wrap over that. I need to be able to see it so I can put the clips on - they invariably fall off during install into case.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZL1
    is it a must ?

    Im just being curious as this is the first time I see it
    Well, my cling wrap gets some dampness on it, mostly where the sinks are. Better on the cling wrap than on delicate components. A pretty cheap and easy safety measure...
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    Thanks guys !

    Im considering going phase (decided to skip water ) and Im trying to get all the info

    sorry if I went OT

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    very nice!
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    Congrats

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    How did you get the chilly1 block on there without regassing? It looks realy nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSU
    How did you get the chilly1 block on there without regassing? It looks realy nice
    I assume Chilly did the old capture-the-gas into an evacuated cylinder or vacuum pump trick, then re-gassed it when he was done. I do not claim to understand the evil magic of the HVAC.
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    WTF is R1270

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    propylene

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    o chilly1 regassed it! so why didnt you have him up the capacity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by berkut
    WTF is R1270
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